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 Post subject: Re: 2018-09-02: Boston, Massachusetts
PostPosted: Thu September 13, 2018 7:14 pm 
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Ed can sing very well still, guys. Im sorry.


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 Post subject: Re: 2018-09-02: Boston, Massachusetts
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Ed can sing very well still, guys. Im sorry.

yes, i keep saying this. he has annoying tics but his voice is quite good considering all the relevant qualifiers (he's 50+, drinks/smokes, style of song, etc.).

basically the solo tour version of ed still kicks ass.

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 Post subject: Re: 2018-09-02: Boston, Massachusetts
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He very much can we he understands his limitations. Party/stadium show Ed can be hit or miss.


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 Post subject: Re: 2018-09-02: Boston, Massachusetts
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evenslow wrote:
Strat wrote:
Ed can sing very well still, guys. Im sorry.

yes, i keep saying this. he has annoying tics but his voice is quite good considering all the relevant qualifiers (he's 50+, drinks/smokes, style of song, etc.).

basically the solo tour version of ed still kicks ass.

The solo version of Ed concentrates, takes those 2 hours seriously, and doesn't get drunk.

He seemed to drink less in 2018. I think London scared him.

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 Post subject: Re: 2018-09-02: Boston, Massachusetts
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In my case, it's not that I think Ed can't sing anymore; I just personally don't enjoy listening to his current voice/style. I've played a few recent Pearl Jam concerts and it's only a few minutes before I feel like turning it off.

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 Post subject: Re: 2018-09-02: Boston, Massachusetts
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I just personally don't enjoy listening to his current voice/style.
Even when he goes to creepy Ed voice?


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 Post subject: Re: 2018-09-02: Boston, Massachusetts
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Lets face it, we're never getting any better songs than what we have now, so they might as well freshen up their catalog.

It was thinking it would be good if they jammed on a few of their newer songs for a few extra bars or added a little improv into them.

The post 00 songs are played exactly to the studio versions but a bit more sloppy with flubs added.
Although now that I think of it, they would only ruin the songs with call and response etc and I especially wouldn’t want them to ruin the binaural and riot act tracks. Also the changes on corduroy and on my tree were shit so this is probably a terrible idea.

But they could experiment with the last 3 albums.

Add some solos to those avocado songs that just fizzle out,
Extend the backspacer songs to 8 mins
Add extra vocal tics to lightning bolt etc etc


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 Post subject: Re: 2018-09-02: Boston, Massachusetts
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i've always felt marker in the sand could have a great jam at the end.

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 Post subject: Re: 2018-09-02: Boston, Massachusetts
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Oh! I loved when they attempt alternate versions of a song for a tour. i.e. Garden 2006, Love Boat Captain 2014, In My Tree 2003, etc. Even if the alternate version is inferior, it's still more interesting for that short period of time.

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 Post subject: Re: 2018-09-02: Boston, Massachusetts
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Oh! I loved when they attempt alternate versions of a song for a tour. i.e. Garden 2006, Love Boat Captain 2014, In My Tree 2003, etc. Even if the alternate version is inferior, it's still more interesting for that short period of time.


Agreed.


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 Post subject: Re: 2018-09-02: Boston, Massachusetts
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CopperTom wrote:
Oh! I loved when they attempt alternate versions of a song for a tour. i.e. Garden 2006, Love Boat Captain 2014, In My Tree 2003, etc. Even if the alternate version is inferior, it's still more interesting for that short period of time.


2003 also had a lot of improvs that were unique and fantastic to experience.


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 Post subject: Re: 2018-09-02: Boston, Massachusetts
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 Post subject: Re: 2018-09-02: Boston, Massachusetts
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 Post subject: Re: 2018-09-02: Boston, Massachusetts
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 Post subject: Re: 2018-09-02: Boston, Massachusetts
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CopperTom wrote:
Oh! I loved when they attempt alternate versions of a song for a tour. i.e. Garden 2006, Love Boat Captain 2014, In My Tree 2003, etc. Even if the alternate version is inferior, it's still more interesting for that short period of time.


Agreed.

Same, and that 2006 version of Garden was seriously great.

At least it shows they're engaging with the material, and hopefully finding some new connection to it through that reinvention.


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 Post subject: Re: 2018-09-02: Boston, Massachusetts
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I see all you Massholes posting completely irrelevant shit here in an attempt to outgrow the Missoula thread.

It’s not going to work.

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 Post subject: Re: 2018-09-02: Boston, Massachusetts
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 Post subject: Re: 2018-09-02: Boston, Massachusetts
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Birds in Hell wrote:
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CopperTom wrote:
Oh! I loved when they attempt alternate versions of a song for a tour. i.e. Garden 2006, Love Boat Captain 2014, In My Tree 2003, etc. Even if the alternate version is inferior, it's still more interesting for that short period of time.


Agreed.

Same, and that 2006 version of Garden was seriously great.

At least it shows they're engaging with the material, and hopefully finding some new connection to it through that reinvention.


I feel like all of their "rearrangements" have either been existing sets of lyrics shoehorned into what are essentially entirely different songs (the '96 "Corduroy," "No Jeremy," that weird acoustic version of "Better Man" they play sometimes) or awkwardly bastardized versions of familiar arrangements that do nothing for the song except break its continuity ("In My Tree," "Garden"). I love when artists do this in general but Pearl Jam have no gift for it -- arrangement is a more integral part of their songwriting than it is for artists like Neil Young, Bob Dylan, etc., whose songs are bare-bones at base and can therefore be adapted to a variety of arrangements without compromising the essence of the composition.


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 Post subject: Re: 2018-09-02: Boston, Massachusetts
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Rank all the pearl jam threads that descend into complaining about pearl jam.
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