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 Post subject: Re: 2018-08-20: Chicago, Illinois
PostPosted: Wed August 22, 2018 12:07 am 
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Stone is one of the worst performing live guitarists of a famous band ever

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 Post subject: Re: 2018-08-20: Chicago, Illinois
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Strat, now is the time to post the video of the worst song ever.


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 Post subject: Re: 2018-08-20: Chicago, Illinois
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Yes he sounded good in that vid, but in general he is insanely sloppy. Pearl Jam is a great live band in their heyday because of their energy, because of Eddie Vedder, and because of their non-matt-cameron drummers. Even in that vid, the part at 1:37 is insanely sloppy, and then Mike sounds bad afterwards too.

They're just very rarely a tight band. Sometimes they are on and they sound great, but a lot of times they sound horrible. I remember my shock when I first heard a bootleg of yellow ledbetter live. Im used to the live versions now but compared to the studio version it always sounds hoooooorrible (I know that one's on Mike). And then there's the end of Present Tense where Eddie frequently just plays the complete wrong notes, and then Baba O Riley is another one I've used to but the first time I heard it played live I was appalled at how horrible it sounded. Again, probably Mike's fault, but Mike tends to have a lot of great performances too


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mikejasond wrote:
Yes he sounded good in that vid, but in general he is insanely sloppy. Pearl Jam is a great live band in their heyday because of their energy, because of Eddie Vedder, and because of their non-matt-cameron drummers. Even in that vid, the part at 1:37 is insanely sloppy, and then Mike sounds bad afterwards too.

They're just very rarely a tight band. Sometimes they are on and they sound great, but a lot of times they sound horrible. I remember my shock when I first heard a bootleg of yellow ledbetter live. Im used to the live versions now but compared to the studio version it always sounds hoooooorrible (I know that one's on Mike). And then there's the end of Present Tense where Eddie frequently just plays the complete wrong notes, and then Baba O Riley is another one I've used to but the first time I heard it played live I was appalled at how horrible it sounded. Again, probably Mike's fault, but Mike tends to have a lot of great performances too


Mike,

You're barking up the wrong tree here with the Stone dissin'. Stone is the most consistent member of the band. The screw up's are all Eds fault, because Ed loves money. Stick to the Dave A lovin'

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 Post subject: Re: 2018-08-20: Chicago, Illinois
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Wait a sec...I just reread most of this entire thread. Did no one post that video of the periscoper getting in a fight in the GA pit last night during MYM? It was posted to reddit last night and was fucking hilarious. Deleted now though. :(


really wish I saw this

MYM was right about when I signed off...

was it an argument over sticker sets?

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 Post subject: Re: 2018-08-20: Chicago, Illinois
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mikejasond wrote:
Yes he sounded good in that vid, but in general he is insanely sloppy. Pearl Jam is a great live band in their heyday because of their energy, because of Eddie Vedder, and because of their non-matt-cameron drummers. Even in that vid, the part at 1:37 is insanely sloppy, and then Mike sounds bad afterwards too.

They're just very rarely a tight band. Sometimes they are on and they sound great, but a lot of times they sound horrible. I remember my shock when I first heard a bootleg of yellow ledbetter live. Im used to the live versions now but compared to the studio version it always sounds hoooooorrible (I know that one's on Mike). And then there's the end of Present Tense where Eddie frequently just plays the complete wrong notes, and then Baba O Riley is another one I've used to but the first time I heard it played live I was appalled at how horrible it sounded. Again, probably Mike's fault, but Mike tends to have a lot of great performances too


But Jeff's cool, right? You had absolutely nothing bad to say about him. I think he's pretty cool, too !


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mikejasond wrote:
Yes he sounded good in that vid, but in general he is insanely sloppy. Pearl Jam is a great live band in their heyday because of their energy, because of Eddie Vedder, and because of their non-matt-cameron drummers. Even in that vid, the part at 1:37 is insanely sloppy, and then Mike sounds bad afterwards too.

They're just very rarely a tight band. Sometimes they are on and they sound great, but a lot of times they sound horrible. I remember my shock when I first heard a bootleg of yellow ledbetter live. Im used to the live versions now but compared to the studio version it always sounds hoooooorrible (I know that one's on Mike). And then there's the end of Present Tense where Eddie frequently just plays the complete wrong notes, and then Baba O Riley is another one I've used to but the first time I heard it played live I was appalled at how horrible it sounded. Again, probably Mike's fault, but Mike tends to have a lot of great performances too

so you're making a point about stone being the worse performer of the band by dissing every member except stone (and jeff). very clever.

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 Post subject: Re: 2018-08-20: Chicago, Illinois
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mikejasond wrote:
Yes he sounded good in that vid, but in general he is insanely sloppy. Pearl Jam is a great live band in their heyday because of their energy, because of Eddie Vedder, and because of their non-matt-cameron drummers. Even in that vid, the part at 1:37 is insanely sloppy, and then Mike sounds bad afterwards too.

They're just very rarely a tight band. Sometimes they are on and they sound great, but a lot of times they sound horrible. I remember my shock when I first heard a bootleg of yellow ledbetter live. Im used to the live versions now but compared to the studio version it always sounds hoooooorrible (I know that one's on Mike). And then there's the end of Present Tense where Eddie frequently just plays the complete wrong notes, and then Baba O Riley is another one I've used to but the first time I heard it played live I was appalled at how horrible it sounded. Again, probably Mike's fault, but Mike tends to have a lot of great performances too

so you're making a point about stone being the worse performer of the band by dissing every member except stone (and jeff). very clever.


Jeff is great.

Yes, they all frequently are sloppy, Stone is just especially so.


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 Post subject: Re: 2018-08-20: Chicago, Illinois
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As someone who's paid way too much attention the guitar playing in Pearl Jam over the years, he really isn't. I'd say Matt and Stone are easily the most consistently solid musical performers in the band.


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 Post subject: Re: 2018-08-20: Chicago, Illinois
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Yes he sounded good in that vid, but in general he is insanely sloppy. Pearl Jam is a great live band in their heyday because of their energy, because of Eddie Vedder, and because of their non-matt-cameron drummers. Even in that vid, the part at 1:37 is insanely sloppy, and then Mike sounds bad afterwards too.

They're just very rarely a tight band. Sometimes they are on and they sound great, but a lot of times they sound horrible. I remember my shock when I first heard a bootleg of yellow ledbetter live. Im used to the live versions now but compared to the studio version it always sounds hoooooorrible (I know that one's on Mike). And then there's the end of Present Tense where Eddie frequently just plays the complete wrong notes, and then Baba O Riley is another one I've used to but the first time I heard it played live I was appalled at how horrible it sounded. Again, probably Mike's fault, but Mike tends to have a lot of great performances too

so you're making a point about stone being the worse performer of the band by dissing every member except stone (and jeff). very clever.


Jeff is great.

Yes, they all frequently are sloppy, Stone is just especially so.


give an example of how he's worse. keep in mind you've just given three examples of mike being sloppy so you probably need four examples.

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 Post subject: Re: 2018-08-20: Chicago, Illinois
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Have you been to many PJ shows, mjd? Sorry but you are sounding like a whack job here

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 Post subject: Re: 2018-08-20: Chicago, Illinois
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Stone holds the whole thing together. He is the Bossman. /thread

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 Post subject: Re: 2018-08-20: Chicago, Illinois
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 Post subject: Re: 2018-08-20: Chicago, Illinois
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Well Mike has had a lot of sloppy moments but he's also had great moments. I'll go find some bad Stone moments later today. There's no doubt though that all three guitar players in PJ (including Eddie) are sloppy as hell. Jeff and Matt are solid, Matt just isn't interesting and ruins the tempos and feels, but he PLAYS well, mechanically. Dave A was the best, and Jeff Irons IMO dragged some of their songs.


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I’m no THANKS FOR ALL YOU DO sycophant, but “The members of Pearl Jam suck at music” is a terrible take.


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Jeff irons definitely had musical issues in the group. For sure. Jeremy irons was pretty solid though.


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Jeff Irons was a terrible drummer.


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 Post subject: Re: 2018-08-20: Chicago, Illinois
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mikejasond wrote:
Well Mike has had a lot of sloppy moments but he's also had great moments. I'll go find some bad Stone moments later today. There's no doubt though that all three guitar players in PJ (including Eddie) are sloppy as hell. Jeff and Matt are solid, Matt just isn't interesting and ruins the tempos and feels, but he PLAYS well, mechanically. Dave A was the best, and Jeff Irons IMO dragged some of their songs.

When you go to concerts, do you do this kind of critiquing? If so I almost feel bad for you.

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 Post subject: Re: 2018-08-20: Chicago, Illinois
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mikejasond wrote:
Well Mike has had a lot of sloppy moments but he's also had great moments. I'll go find some bad Stone moments later today. There's no doubt though that all three guitar players in PJ (including Eddie) are sloppy as hell. Jeff and Matt are solid, Matt just isn't interesting and ruins the tempos and feels, but he PLAYS well, mechanically. Dave A was the best, and Jeff Irons IMO dragged some of their songs.

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