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 Post subject: Trying to sort my audio/video Pearl Jam collection
PostPosted: Fri October 30, 2015 10:39 am 
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Hi there

After some time getting shows here and there, and as I have many of them, I want to organize them a little, starting with audio

I already discover the Audio Archive collection, and found md5 check files for every volume / show...

So, my first step is check my shows against those md5 and see if they match or not

Meanwhile, I have some questions to make :D

1) The Audio Archives covers the pre-2000 shows, as they started to make the Official Bootlegs from 2000 onwards. I don't know if more old shows have surfaced, besides the Archives. So, are those shows available? Which shows are?

2) Are md5 files available to check the Official Bootlegs? I have also many of them, but completely unsorted and unchecked if they are correct or not.

3) Besides the Archives sets and the Official Bootleg downloads, which other sets / shows are available?. Is there any listing or something similar. I've heard about Vault releases, Audience recording of shows not included in the Official Downloads.

Basically, I want to make my collection the most complete possible :D

Thanks in advance


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 Post subject: Re: Trying to sort my audio/video Pearl Jam collection
PostPosted: Fri October 30, 2015 12:28 pm 
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Here's what I have as the non included Audio Archive shows pre 2000. I know some were newly discovered, but I don't think all were.

11-27-91
2-15-92
2-26-92
4-8-92
4-13-92
4-23-92
4-30-92
5-2-92
8-2-92
8-9-92
8-16-92
8-23-92
7-6-93
7-7-93
7-13-93
3-19-94
3-25-94
2-28-98

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 Post subject: Re: Trying to sort my audio/video Pearl Jam collection
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#3 is tricky to answer. I organized post AA by year. As far as I know, every show except the Made In America Festival 2012 has a recording.

MD5 checking might turn into a nightmare. 2000 and 2003 would be troublesome since they are ripped. My ripped MD5s wouldn't match someone else's ripped files even though both of our files could be perfect.
Newer official releases differ by origin - 10C files include no tags, Live Download files do include tags. I think this would cause the MD5s to differ too.

The biggest issue currently is 24 bit transcodes which pollute the 16 bit pool. Make sure you have actual 16 bit FLAC files

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 Post subject: Re: Trying to sort my audio/video Pearl Jam collection
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Hi

Thanks for the answers, it seems I have some work to do :)

I've checked the link for the remastered soundboard series on the blog, but all of them are MP3 files. Is there some link to get them in FLAC?

Are the Official Vault shows free to trade?

About the Official Bootlegs 2000 and 2003: It seems the best option is to get a "verified collection" from somebody.

The rest Official Bootlegs are downloads, right?

It could be great to get all the Official Bootlegs from a verified and trusted source. I don't know if there is an option like that for download or trade, and how much space it will take

Also, i'll search the forum, as I've seen some interesting collections, like the B-Sides and Rarities on 6 or 7 CD's


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 Post subject: Re: Trying to sort my audio/video Pearl Jam collection
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Typically, if a show is not currently available for sale (in any form), it is considered free to trade.

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 Post subject: Re: Trying to sort my audio/video Pearl Jam collection
PostPosted: Tue November 03, 2015 5:45 am 
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CopperTom wrote:
Here's what I have as the non included Audio Archive shows pre 2000. I know some were newly discovered, but I don't think all were.

11-27-91
2-15-92
2-26-92
4-8-92
4-13-92
4-23-92
4-30-92
5-2-92
8-2-92
8-9-92
8-16-92
8-23-92
7-6-93
7-7-93
7-13-93
3-19-94
3-25-94
2-28-98


I made this list after I got the drive from a friend:

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Not on Pearl Jam Drive:

1991/08/03 - Seattle, WA ("Alive" from Japanese EP)
1991/11/27 - Cincinnati, OH
1992/01/17 - Seattle, WA (Vault Release)
1992/02/04 - The Late Show, BBC TV
1992/02/15 - Madrid, Spain
1992/04/08 - Boston, MA
1992/04/11 - Saturday Night Live
1992/04/13 - College Park, MD
1992/06/08 - Pinkpop Festival (3 songs from "Oceans" single)
1992/09/11 - Irvine, CA
1992/12/31 - New York, NY (SBD / AUD mix)
1992/12/31 - New York, NY (official release)
1993/07/06 - Rome, Italy
1993/07/07 - Rome, Italy
1993/07/13 - London, UK
1993/08/19 - Montréal, QC
1993/10/31 - Berkeley, CA (soundcheck)
1993/11/05 - Indio, CA ("Blood" from "Daughter" single)
1993/11/06 - Mesa, AZ ("Yellow Ledbetter" from "Daughter" single)
1994/03/19 - Detroit, MI
1994/03/25 - Memphis, TN
1994/04/02 - Atlanta, GA ("Out Of My Mind" from "Not For You" single)
1994/04/16 - Saturday Night Live
1995/03/06 - Perth, OZ (full show circulating on mp3)
1995/03/25 - Auckland, NZ (1080HD video of "Blood" from pro-shot)
1995/11/06 - San Diego, CA (Monkeywrench FM - only the AUD is on the drive)
1996/09/20 - The Late Show With David Letterman
1996/10/19 - Mountain View, CA (SBD / DAT mix)
1996/11/05 - Ed with the Fastbacks (The What)
1996/11/17 - Sofia, Bulgaria (DAT upgrade)
1997/11/15 - Oakland, CA (PRO-video / SBD upgrade; 5 minutes)
1998/XX/XX - Yield Radio Special (found this on What.cd...a long interview with the band about Yield)
1998/02/26 - Wellington, NZ
1998/02/28 - Auckland, NZ
1998/03/15 - Brisbane, OZ (DAT upgrade)
1998/03/20 - Perth, OZ (lossy video source)
1998/05/01 - The Late Show With David Letterman
2000/04/12 - The Late Show With David Letterman
2000/05/10 - Bellingham, WA (SBD - 128k mp3 source)
2000/05/10 - Bellingham, WA (SBD - 2 songs from "Light Years" single)
2000/06/XX - European tour soundchecks
2002/11/14 - The Late Show With David Letterman
2005/03/18 - Seattle, WA
2005/04/29 - Seattle, WA (Live at Easy Street official release)
2005/09/01 - George, WA (Live at the Gorge official release)
2005/09/28 - Pittsburgh, PA
2005/10/05 - Chicago, IL (Katrina benefit)
2005/11/21 - Santiago, Chile (Soundcheck)
2005/11/22 - Santiago, Chile (PRO-video source; may be official boot)
2006/02/27 - Sessions @ AOL
2006/04/15 - Saturday Night Live
2006/04/XX - BBC (Zane Lowe show)
2006/04/XX - Late Night with Jools Holland
2006/05/31 - VH1 Storytellers
2006/07/22 - George, WA (Live at the Gorge official release)
2006/07/23 - George, WA (Live at the Gorge official release)
2006/11/XX - "A Preternatural Plain" unofficial compilation
2008/06/11 - West Palm Beach, FL (DAT Audience recording)
2008/07/12 - Tribute to The Who TV special
2009/06/01 - The Tonight Show With Conan O'Brien
2009/08/19 - Zane Lowe Show (3 songs + interview)
2009/08/21 - Toronto, ON (EV and MM opening set)
2009/10/03 - Austin City Limits (lossless?)
2011/11/24 - Mexico City, MX [AUD]


That was just for my reference, but there's a bunch of stuff out there not circulating that well. I later tracked down a lot of this stuff (though not all). I also got a Nirvana drive at the same time, and I noticed just how meticulous Nirvana collectors are; they had every source for every show, even if it sounded like shit. The PJ drive had all the SV series stuff rather than the individual sources; not that there's really anything wrong with that, but in some cases I would have rather had individual sources.

A bunch more stuff has surfaced since I made this note, FYI.


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 Post subject: Re: Trying to sort my audio/video Pearl Jam collection
PostPosted: Tue November 03, 2015 8:32 am 
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Hi

Matt, thanks for the list, it will help me in my search

About the Nirvana fans, they're really well organized and, as you say, catalog their material really well.

There is a trend of getting into circulation as much recordings as possible, including multiple recordings of the same show, vinyl rips, and everything... I've noticed that in some of the fan trader pages and download sites... I like a that and I hope that, with time, everything will be perfectly cataloged and with no recordings left in those vaults :D


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