Fri September 30, 2016 9:10 pm
Fri September 30, 2016 9:44 pm
Fri September 30, 2016 10:21 pm
Fri September 30, 2016 10:45 pm
Fri September 30, 2016 11:17 pm
Fri September 30, 2016 11:45 pm
Sat October 01, 2016 3:27 am
Sat October 01, 2016 4:19 am
Bi_3 wrote:No one polished that turd. If anything, chunks were added
Sat October 01, 2016 11:34 am
LetMeSleep wrote:Bi_3 wrote:No one polished that turd. If anything, chunks were added
I beg to differ. It was overly polished. Suffocatingly so.
Sat April 29, 2017 4:50 pm
Sat April 29, 2017 5:47 pm
Sat April 29, 2017 5:54 pm
EJ wrote:Tread lightly, TremorJam. You've just put out WendyCarlosTwins' bat signal. Those 2009 Spectrum shows are his all time favorites.
Sat April 29, 2017 6:08 pm
TremorJam wrote:EJ wrote:Tread lightly, TremorJam. You've just put out WendyCarlosTwins' bat signal. Those 2009 Spectrum shows are his all time favorites.
I thought that I read he was in agreement with me as far as those shows go? I was never big into message boards or the online fandom experience and bought that box set from seeing people over on the pit raving about it. I was all excited, started listening and really, only listened to each show once before I sold it. I downloaded it again recently to see if my perspective had changed at all and nope, it isn't me...Those shows are probably the most overrated of the band's history.
Sat April 29, 2017 6:19 pm
TremorJam wrote:I was never big into message boards or the online fandom experience and bought that box set from seeing people over on the pit raving about it. I was all excited, started listening and really, only listened to each show once before I sold it. I downloaded it again recently to see if my perspective had changed at all and nope, it isn't me...Those shows are probably the most overrated of the band's history.
Sat April 29, 2017 6:31 pm
Sat April 29, 2017 6:41 pm
Sat April 29, 2017 6:45 pm
EJ wrote::lol: The bat signal did not fail.
I was at night 1 of those. Best seats I've ever had. Had a good time. But, it was the first time I'd been at a PJ show and thought, "wow, they're kind of a mess tonight." Which kinda sucked because they played some great rarities in that set. I haven't ever bothered to listen to the boot.
Sun April 30, 2017 5:35 pm
TremorJam wrote:EJ wrote:Tread lightly, TremorJam. You've just put out WendyCarlosTwins' bat signal. Those 2009 Spectrum shows are his all time favorites.
I thought that I read he was in agreement with me as far as those shows go? I was never big into message boards or the online fandom experience and bought that box set from seeing people over on the pit raving about it. I was all excited, started listening and really, only listened to each show once before I sold it. I downloaded it again recently to see if my perspective had changed at all and nope, it isn't me...Those shows are probably the most overrated of the band's history.
Sun April 30, 2017 5:45 pm
TremorJam wrote:I loved Riot Act. Living in the D.C. area at the time made that album resonate more with me, I think. Bristow (D.C.) 2003 is was an excellent show. 2003 wasn't really that bad. Early PJ is in a league of it's own. My favorite show is probably Melbourne '98, followed by Melbourne '95, Atlanta '94. As far as the Tours go, the era between 2008-2010 I have the most difficulty with. I do think that things leveled off once they got past PJ20.
'90's- I'm lumping everything here between '92-'98. The excitement, energy and controversy helped cement the legendary status for these shows.
'00-Take your pick
'05-Take your pick
'06-Take your pick
'03-This is when the experimentation really got going.
'14-Lots of great shows this year. US, Europe, Australia in this order.
'13-There are some great shows from this tour. The last 5 NW shows are almost perfect for this era.
'12-The end of the 20/BS era and Europe got some great shows
'15-SA had some decent shows
'16-Still trying to get into this Tour, but there were some really good performances. The Canadian shows are my favorite so far.
'11-PJ20!! the Toronto shows and Buenos Aires were pretty good. I'm sure there's more, but I'm good.
'10-Meh, but there were some surprises. Hyde Park and a mix is all I really want.
'09-I can't stand the Spectrum shows that get a lot of love. Give me ridleybradouts' Aussie mix instead
'08-I only have 1 show from this Tour and never listen to it.
Personally, I think the band has evolved quite nicely. Lately, I've mainly been catching up with more recent shows after taking a break for a bit. I've been mixing it up with shows from the 2000 and 2005 Tours. Ed's voice has obviously changed, but I think he's adjusted to it better recently, than he did initially.
Sun April 30, 2017 8:38 pm
matt reeder wrote:TremorJam wrote:I loved Riot Act. Living in the D.C. area at the time made that album resonate more with me, I think. Bristow (D.C.) 2003 is was an excellent show. 2003 wasn't really that bad. Early PJ is in a league of it's own. My favorite show is probably Melbourne '98, followed by Melbourne '95, Atlanta '94. As far as the Tours go, the era between 2008-2010 I have the most difficulty with. I do think that things leveled off once they got past PJ20.
'90's- I'm lumping everything here between '92-'98. The excitement, energy and controversy helped cement the legendary status for these shows.
'00-Take your pick
'05-Take your pick
'06-Take your pick
'03-This is when the experimentation really got going.
'14-Lots of great shows this year. US, Europe, Australia in this order.
'13-There are some great shows from this tour. The last 5 NW shows are almost perfect for this era.
'12-The end of the 20/BS era and Europe got some great shows
'15-SA had some decent shows
'16-Still trying to get into this Tour, but there were some really good performances. The Canadian shows are my favorite so far.
'11-PJ20!! the Toronto shows and Buenos Aires were pretty good. I'm sure there's more, but I'm good.
'10-Meh, but there were some surprises. Hyde Park and a mix is all I really want.
'09-I can't stand the Spectrum shows that get a lot of love. Give me ridleybradouts' Aussie mix instead
'08-I only have 1 show from this Tour and never listen to it.
Personally, I think the band has evolved quite nicely. Lately, I've mainly been catching up with more recent shows after taking a break for a bit. I've been mixing it up with shows from the 2000 and 2005 Tours. Ed's voice has obviously changed, but I think he's adjusted to it better recently, than he did initially.
Everybody likes 2003, but few here would consider it their best tour. My first two shows were in 2003 and the first of the two was an all-time great PJ show (Champaign). There are a lot of great shows from that tour. It just wasn't the best.
I think everybody here would say that 1998 or 2000 were the best tours, with some arguing strongly for 1994. It depends on what your favorite albums are, or who your favorite drummer was. The weird thing: many of us consider March 1998 to be the band's absolute live peak, and yet Jack Irons himself seems to be embarrassed with his performances on this tour. I don't hear it at all.
I think they're all good through 2006; since then the only tour I've listened to that's consistently good is 2014. Every tour has at least a few good or even great shows, and if you catch them on one of these nights they are as good as they're ever going to be. A lot of people didn't like 2013, for example, but I caught them on one of their good nights and it was fantastic. Everybody who went to Pemberton last year seems to have loved it, and the bootleg is fantastic. But the mediocre and even bad nights are becoming more and more common and it makes listening to bootlegs more of a chore sometimes than it ever used to be.