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 Post subject: Re: 2016-04-08: Fort Lauderdale, Florida
PostPosted: Sat April 09, 2016 3:24 am 
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A bunch of really cool ones; help help, yellow moon, light years..man i hope i get light years next time.

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 Post subject: Re: 2016-04-08: Fort Lauderdale, Florida
PostPosted: Sat April 09, 2016 3:31 am 
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Mind Your Manners
Corduroy
Given to Fly
Help Help
Deep
Nothingman
Small Town
Severed Hand
Unthought Known
Sirens
(Happy Birthday to Mike)
Surrender (Cheap Trick)
Even Flow
Amongst the Waves
I Am Mine
Swallowed Whole
Who You Are
Do the Evolution
Why Go

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Yellow Moon
Footsteps
Last Kiss
Black
Comatose
Lightning Bolt
Porch

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Light Years
Better Man
Alive
Baba O'Riley

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I Am a Patriot
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 Post subject: Re: 2016-04-08: Fort Lauderdale, Florida
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That's a very well-chosen setlist.


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 Post subject: Re: 2016-04-08: Fort Lauderdale, Florida
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Awesome. Different closing. Great stuff


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 Post subject: Re: 2016-04-08: Fort Lauderdale, Florida
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Ed busted out a Trump mask tonight

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Birds in Hell wrote:
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Ed busted out a Trump mask tonight

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For which song?

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evenslow wrote:
Birds in Hell wrote:
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Ed busted out a Trump mask tonight

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For which song?

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 Post subject: Re: 2016-04-08: Fort Lauderdale, Florida
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I don't have any problem with the band's tempos, I think it's another issue that has become something of a "Pearl Jam complaint meme" despite having little basis in reality.

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 Post subject: Re: 2016-04-08: Fort Lauderdale, Florida
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There are a handful of songs that are played faster now than in years past but it's not some across the board thing.


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 Post subject: Re: 2016-04-08: Fort Lauderdale, Florida
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Birds in Hell wrote:
There are a handful of songs that are played faster now than in years past but it's not some across the board thing.


Really? I dunno, man -- I mean, there's definitely some "we're on stage, we're adrenalized, so naturally we're going to play faster than on the record" to be expected, but I'd think you'd be hard pressed to find many songs in their catalog that have retained their natural tempo. I think the degree to which it ruins the live performance is overstated, but certainly not the widespread presence of increased tempos.


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Kevin Davis wrote:
Birds in Hell wrote:
There are a handful of songs that are played faster now than in years past but it's not some across the board thing.


Really? I dunno, man -- I mean, there's definitely some "we're on stage, we're adrenalized, so naturally we're going to play faster than on the record" to be expected, but I'd think you'd be hard pressed to find many songs in their catalog that have retained their natural tempo. I think the degree to which it ruins the live performance is overstated, but certainly not the widespread presence of increased tempos.


I think the issue is also that they don't play to a click track, so some songs they've played a million times are naturally a lot faster than songs they rarely play. This isn't a PJ-only phenomenon; I've observed this with a lot of other bands that I follow and collect recordings over the years as well.


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Great setlist. Hope it sounded good. When was the last time the band played I Am a Patriot?


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matt reeder wrote:
Kevin Davis wrote:
Birds in Hell wrote:
There are a handful of songs that are played faster now than in years past but it's not some across the board thing.


Really? I dunno, man -- I mean, there's definitely some "we're on stage, we're adrenalized, so naturally we're going to play faster than on the record" to be expected, but I'd think you'd be hard pressed to find many songs in their catalog that have retained their natural tempo. I think the degree to which it ruins the live performance is overstated, but certainly not the widespread presence of increased tempos.


I think the issue is also that they don't play to a click track, so some songs they've played a million times are naturally a lot faster than songs they rarely play. This isn't a PJ-only phenomenon; I've observed this with a lot of other bands that I follow and collect recordings over the years as well.

Yeah, same.

Perhaps I've just come to expect by now that rock bands will play their songs live significantly faster than the recorded versions to the extent that I don't find it remarkable unless the change is really excessive.


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 Post subject: Re: 2016-04-08: Fort Lauderdale, Florida
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Birds in Hell wrote:
Quote:
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Mind Your Manners
Corduroy
Given to Fly
Help Help
Deep
Nothingman
Small Town
Severed Hand
Unthought Known
Sirens
(Happy Birthday to Mike)
Surrender (Cheap Trick)
Even Flow
Amongst the Waves
I Am Mine
Swallowed Whole
Who You Are
Do the Evolution
Why Go

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Yellow Moon
Footsteps
Last Kiss
Black
Comatose
Lightning Bolt
Porch

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Light Years
Better Man
Alive
Baba O'Riley

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I Am a Patriot
Indifference


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I thought the sound was good and the band's performance was pretty tight.

Ed screwed up some lyrics. Help help and who you are, had mistakes. A few more songs also had flubs.

Surrender was only partial. I am a patriot was ed solo and played based on a crowd sign. There was no en core break after baba

The trump mask came from the audience and ed threw it back in the crowd after he used it.

Ed shed some tears towards the end. He mentioned that former roadie scully? Just passed away, then did light years.

Last kiss played to the back of the arena.


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 Post subject: Re: 2016-04-08: Fort Lauderdale, Florida
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 Post subject: Re: 2016-04-08: Fort Lauderdale, Florida
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Some cool stuff in there, but the setlist is all over the place. And no double openers is an interesting change.

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 Post subject: Re: 2016-04-08: Fort Lauderdale, Florida
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b_i_revisited wrote:
Some cool stuff in there, but the setlist is all over the place. And no double openers is an interesting change.

Yea, the fact that the setlists these days have no discernible flow is probably a way bigger bother to me than the changes in tempo, Ed's flubbing lyrics, etc.


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I'm not sure how it will sound on the boot, but I thought ed sounded good. He took it easy on lightening bolt and maybe a couple of others but I was impressed that he sounded good on go, dte, and comatose.


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