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 Post subject: Re: 4/3/1994 Atlanta*The 20th anniversary thread*
PostPosted: Sat December 12, 2020 5:43 pm 
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If you're a detail person: Mike's noodling the intro of "Satan's Bed" before the song starts is missing from the new version.

Minor thing - possibly lost in a reel swap that night.


Every time I listen to this, I wonder if people hearing it for the first time realize that the jam after "Once" is Ed on drums (with Dave A playing toms behind him).

Dave A: "Ladies and gentlemen, Dave Abbruzzese"
Jeff: "Otherwise known as Four Feet"

Dave A: mocks the crowd's chanting "Eddie"


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I am loving the master, they don't play Sonic Reducer like this anymore, holy shit! I remember I listened to this on Z100 the night it aired with my stepbrother, All we know of Whipping was it was called Don't Need, Satan's Bed was Already in Love. Ultimately these two live verision made me never ever embrace the album versions of these songs.


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any kind soul wants to...gift me the new mix?

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any kind soul wants to...gift me the new mix?

:cop: https://shop.pearljam.com/collections/m ... l-download

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I am usually agnostic when it comes to references to Beth being removed from songs, but how do you painstakingly remove those but leave "Michael Jackson is innocent" on this release?

Great sound on this. Besides the well-founded gripe that we already had a good recording of this show, this is all gravy (especially since it was free for 10Cers). Wish they did this 2-3 times a year at least--maybe this is the start of something.

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Simple Torture wrote:
I am usually agnostic when it comes to references to Beth being removed from songs, but how do you painstakingly remove those but leave "Michael Jackson is innocent" on this release?

I guess Ed is an MJ truther.


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any kind soul wants to...gift me the new mix?

:cop: https://shop.pearljam.com/collections/m ... l-download


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I've never seen a photograph from this show. For some reason, it adds to the mystique.

For such an iconic Pearl Jam show, it is pretty incredible that there aren't any photos or video circulating.

There was footage of WMA shown in the on-site museum at PJ20 but I think that's the extent of it.


Hope that this doesnt destroy its mystique, but for the first time ever they showed a footage of Sonic Reducer from this concert yesterday on that Lin Manuel live event.


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https://www.instagram.com/tv/CI8v2yABoWN/?igshid=2juijvppx2j1

Dont know how to get It embbed


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There is hope....


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Johnny Turner wrote:
Dont know how to get It embbed



/just so i can find it again


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 Post subject: Re: 4/3/1994 Atlanta*The 20th anniversary thread*
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Dave A: mocks the crowd's chanting "Eddie"

Is that the squealy vocal near the end of the drumming (about 7:30)? Never knew that. :haha:


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Dave A: mocks the crowd's chanting "Eddie"

Is that the squealy vocal near the end of the drumming (about 7:30)? Never knew that. :haha:

Mocks Eddie, spits at Stone. Fuck that guy
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Man, I miss Dave A and his groove.


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Birds in Hell wrote:
Simple Torture wrote:
I am usually agnostic when it comes to references to Beth being removed from songs, but how do you painstakingly remove those but leave "Michael Jackson is innocent" on this release?

I guess Ed is an MJ truther.

Does anyone know what the next thing he says is? "26 years since..."


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ridleybradout wrote:
Birds in Hell wrote:
Simple Torture wrote:
I am usually agnostic when it comes to references to Beth being removed from songs, but how do you painstakingly remove those but leave "Michael Jackson is innocent" on this release?

I guess Ed is an MJ truther.

Does anyone know what the next thing he says is? "26 years since..."


Not sure what Eddie says but a quick Google search indicates that April 3, 1968 was the date of MLK's final speech.


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 Post subject: Re: 4/3/1994 Atlanta*The 20th anniversary thread*
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Kevin Davis wrote:
ridleybradout wrote:
Birds in Hell wrote:
Simple Torture wrote:
I am usually agnostic when it comes to references to Beth being removed from songs, but how do you painstakingly remove those but leave "Michael Jackson is innocent" on this release?

I guess Ed is an MJ truther.

Does anyone know what the next thing he says is? "26 years since..."


Not sure what Eddie says but a quick Google search indicates that April 3, 1968 was the date of MLK's final speech.

And was killed the next day.

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Ed’s hair looks great in this video

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ridleybradout wrote:
Birds in Hell wrote:
Simple Torture wrote:
I am usually agnostic when it comes to references to Beth being removed from songs, but how do you painstakingly remove those but leave "Michael Jackson is innocent" on this release?

I guess Ed is an MJ truther.

Does anyone know what the next thing he says is? "26 years since..."


I always thought it was, "Michael Jackson *was* innocent...26 years of his life." I figured he meant that MJ had still seemed like a cool, relatable guy until the mega-mega-stardom happened with Thriller and then it rapidly went downhill with Neverland, hyperbolic chamber, sleepovers with kids, etc.

But then at that time I also still thought that Bel Biv Devoe said "Never trust a big buttonous smile," where "buttonous" was an adjective describing a type of smile that resembled buttons. So I might not be the best judge of things Eddie mumbles in a live recording.


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johnnyfixer wrote:
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I'll be disappointed if this indicates Josh Evans is going to be mixing future archival releases instead of Brett Eliason.

Evans' mixes of the live stuff don't land for me - they sound kind of overhyped, Eliason's sound more natural.

Yeah, 100%. Listening to the Seattle '93 vault from last year recently and it sounds amazing; relaxed and clear and just juicy enough. Natural is a great word for it.

In contrast, this new Atlanta remix from same period just isn't doing anything for me. Obviously everything is there in the mix, it just doesn't hang together in a way that's at all pleasing. Gonna have to dig out the original pre-fm source which iirc is actually a tad overly sweet. Brett could have really tightened this up nicely.

Been comparing this new mix, the original pre-fm, and Seattle '93 Vault some more. My biggest gripe is the absence of any 'air' or space on the new remix. There's just no room to breathe anywhere, like it's been filled up (unnaturally) with ambience or something. By contrast the original and Seattle '93 are without this issue and really sound much more relaxed.

Maybe it's just down to compression. Without being completely brickwalled, the new mix is a lot less dynamic than Seattle '93. Has it been 'mastered for Spotify'? Albeit, ironically, that was an improvement for Avocado.


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It is going to be next vault release LOLOLOLOL.


Not a vault, but part of their "regular bootleg series." I guess that means no vinyl.


Ah, see - that's my fault.

When I say "vault" I'm talking about general boots they release on nugs and CD - not the "vault series".

I kinda forgot there was a distinction.

I don't object to them releasing this of course, but it's a huge waste of time if it means a long gap before the next one.

They've been doing that a lot lately.

Hopefully they have others planned!


In the shop it is now listed as Vault 11. I don't know at this point and neither do they.


"Vault #1" didn't have a vinyl release either.

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