Wed November 01, 2017 8:19 pm
dimejinky99 wrote:2000 tour was probably the last tour where each show felt like an event and something momentous was taking place. There was a very different and deeply felt and profound atmosphere before and during each show.
The following tours seemed to be the evolution into the party band. No bad thing. Change up is good and prevents it all becoming stale but something special was lost in that transition.
Wed November 01, 2017 8:32 pm
mikejasond wrote:dimejinky99 wrote:2000 tour was probably the last tour where each show felt like an event and something momentous was taking place. There was a very different and deeply felt and profound atmosphere before and during each show.
The following tours seemed to be the evolution into the party band. No bad thing. Change up is good and prevents it all becoming stale but something special was lost in that transition.
This is weird to me too. From what I've heard the 2003 shows were way more unique than the 2000 shows.
In fact what's standing out to me is how the 2000 shows are so UN unique.
I don't know where the posts are now but I remember some crazy opening runs of songs in the 2003 shows, where the 2000 shows always seemed to start pretty much the exact same way to the point I got sick of Corduroy and Animal completely how they always popped up in the exact same spot.
But man Im switching now to listening to Benaroya 2003 and its SO GOOD
Wed November 01, 2017 8:33 pm
Leatherhead wrote:No feeling, just banging out notes.
Wed November 01, 2017 8:41 pm
Strat wrote:You're a weird guy, ace.
Wed November 01, 2017 8:58 pm
Tue November 14, 2017 5:50 pm
Wed November 15, 2017 3:05 am
darth_vedder wrote:Listened to Tampa from this tour yesterday / today; damn fine show.
Wed November 15, 2017 4:30 am
Kevin Davis wrote:darth_vedder wrote:Listened to Tampa from this tour yesterday / today; damn fine show.
Are you now sold on the brilliance of "Evacuation?"
Thu November 16, 2017 3:33 pm
Strat wrote:Kevin Davis wrote:darth_vedder wrote:Listened to Tampa from this tour yesterday / today; damn fine show.
Are you now sold on the brilliance of "Evacuation?"
Was he not ??
Fri November 17, 2017 3:36 pm
darth_vedder wrote:Strat wrote:Kevin Davis wrote:darth_vedder wrote:Listened to Tampa from this tour yesterday / today; damn fine show.
Are you now sold on the brilliance of "Evacuation?"
Was he not ??
Well, I've had a complicated relationship with Evacuation over the years. I used to hate it. Over time, I grew to appreciate it musically, but I've never quite been able to latch onto the song as I have with a whole lotta others from their catalog.
re: Live versions, I only have 6 of them, one being that disaster from DC.
The others are:
Katowice 2, 2000
WPB 2, 2000
Jones Beach 3, 2000
Seattle 2, 2000
I now have Tampa, 2000, and after one proper listen, I'm pretty confident it's the best of the lot above, probably followed by either Katowice or Seattle. At any rate, KD was basically seeing if I'm coming around to the song now that I have a really good live version of it.
Mon December 11, 2017 2:32 pm
Mon December 11, 2017 3:56 pm
darth_vedder wrote:Will do.
It's a solid song and I would be thrilled if PJ went down the road of Evacuation and Cropduster again. Both songs I've struggled with (spenno pointed me towards a solid version of Cropduster from his 2011 Canadian tour compilation), but both songs I appreciate. I like how both are "off" musically for PJ. By that, different time signatures and whatnot. I feel the band is pushing themselves a bit beyond their normal scope, and I really like that. I just happen to like a lot of other songs on Binaural and Riot Act better (I'm a sucker for Rival and Help Help).
Mon December 11, 2017 5:46 pm
Monkey_Driven wrote:darth_vedder wrote:(I'm a sucker for Rival and Help Help)
Uh, yeah.
Mon December 11, 2017 9:05 pm
darth_vedder wrote:Will do.
It's a solid song and I would be thrilled if PJ went down the road of Evacuation and Cropduster again. Both songs I've struggled with (spenno pointed me towards a solid version of Cropduster from his 2011 Canadian tour compilation), but both songs I appreciate. I like how both are "off" musically for PJ. By that, different time signatures and whatnot. I feel the band is pushing themselves a bit beyond their normal scope, and I really like that. I just happen to like a lot of other songs on Binaural and Riot Act better (I'm a sucker for Rival and Help Help).
Wed January 03, 2018 2:12 pm
Mon February 12, 2018 3:43 am
Fri March 02, 2018 5:08 pm
liebzz wrote:Just listening to Saratoga from the 2000 tour which was an excellent show. My gripe with this tour has always been that never before or after did they just not really stretch the songs out and let them breathe live. Almost completely stuck to album versions with little to no variation - at least in the US. There are exceptions but that just seemed like the rule.
Fri March 02, 2018 5:17 pm
darth_vedder wrote:liebzz wrote:Just listening to Saratoga from the 2000 tour which was an excellent show. My gripe with this tour has always been that never before or after did they just not really stretch the songs out and let them breathe live. Almost completely stuck to album versions with little to no variation - at least in the US. There are exceptions but that just seemed like the rule.
Porch was kinda meh this tour. However, some of the best RVMs came from when Sonic Youth was opening for them. They got really wild (noisy) on some of those mid section jams.
Fri March 02, 2018 5:21 pm
cutuphalfdead wrote:darth_vedder wrote:liebzz wrote:Just listening to Saratoga from the 2000 tour which was an excellent show. My gripe with this tour has always been that never before or after did they just not really stretch the songs out and let them breathe live. Almost completely stuck to album versions with little to no variation - at least in the US. There are exceptions but that just seemed like the rule.
Porch was kinda meh this tour. However, some of the best RVMs came from when Sonic Youth was opening for them. They got really wild (noisy) on some of those mid section jams.
Yeah the best RVMs of all time are from the first leg of the north american 2000 tour.
Fri March 02, 2018 6:17 pm