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 Post subject: Editing Live Compilations
PostPosted: Tue January 21, 2014 7:48 pm 
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I want to be able to make a live compilation where you can't notice the transitions between songs. Is it simply just a cross fade that is used? I have a few ideas for some compilations I would like to make and I would like to re-edit my "ManOfTheHour 2000 Tour Compilation" that I did a couple years ago. The two programs I have are Audacity and Sound Forge 10 but I cant seem to figure out how to do this. I'm hoping that maybe Ridley, LowLight79, Spenno, or Chud could give me some tips or info. I have Compilations from all of you that I think sound incredible and I would like to contribute some of my own.


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 Post subject: Re: Editing Live Compilations
PostPosted: Tue January 21, 2014 7:57 pm 
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Yeah you pretty much crossfade the crowd noise between songs. I line them up to overlap a bit in multitrack sessions and then fade them into and out of each other. I use Adobe Audition so that might not be much help to you.


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Thanks. I'll try downloading that and see if I can figure it out.


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 Post subject: Re: Editing Live Compilations
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 Post subject: Re: Editing Live Compilations
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Anyone know of a free editing program I could try?


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 Post subject: Re: Editing Live Compilations
PostPosted: Tue January 21, 2014 9:47 pm 
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I've used Audacity for all the mixes I've made, it's free.


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 Post subject: Re: Editing Live Compilations
PostPosted: Tue January 21, 2014 9:54 pm 
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I have Audacity. I can't figure out how to ad multiple tracks in and line them up so I can cross fade. I will spend some more time with it and try and figure it out.


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I'm busy this minute but I'll come back and give a quick explanation later.


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I'm busy this minute but I'll come back and give a quick explanation later.

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 Post subject: Re: Editing Live Compilations
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Ok, thanks.


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 Post subject: Re: Editing Live Compilations
PostPosted: Tue January 21, 2014 10:00 pm 
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Didn't Jorge do a quick audacity tutorial video?


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 Post subject: Re: Editing Live Compilations
PostPosted: Tue January 21, 2014 10:02 pm 
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open Audacity >> open a track >> import next track >> Use the time-shift tool (<-->) >> align the edges of the tracks so the audience noise overlap a bit >> highlight first/top track >> effect cross fade out >> highlight next/bottom track >> effect cross fade in >> repeat >> export >> go steal a copy of Audition


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 Post subject: Re: Editing Live Compilations
PostPosted: Tue January 21, 2014 10:17 pm 
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Thanks, sounds easy enough. I'll give it a try later when I get some time.


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 Post subject: Re: Editing Live Compilations
PostPosted: Tue January 21, 2014 11:00 pm 
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turned2black wrote:
open Audacity >> open a track >> import next track >> Use the time-shift tool (<-->) >> align the edges of the tracks so the audience noise overlap a bit >> highlight first/top track >> effect cross fade out >> highlight next/bottom track >> effect cross fade in >> repeat >> export >> go steal a copy of Audition


The most frustrating thing I haven't yet figured out is how to set up a multi-track project in Audactiy and export into individual tracks once the lining up, fading, etc... is complete. I've just always cut it back to a single track, exported, undid the cut, cut what I exported, shifted to the next track, and repeated. There has to be a better way. Any pointers on that one?


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 Post subject: Re: Editing Live Compilations
PostPosted: Tue January 21, 2014 11:26 pm 
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Hey Hugh, I didn't realise you were ManOfTheHour :wave:

Sounds like you might be sorted with Audacity, but I thought I'd chip in with my two cents.

I use Nero Wave Editor and SoundTrax - both easy, user friendly and free:

http://www.nero.com/ena/downloads/

Really simple and intuitive controls to fine tune fade-ins/outs, cross fade and change volume, which is sometimes needed when the crowd noise is too different between tracks.

I also really like how you can zoom in with the scroll wheel, I don't think Audacity does that...


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 Post subject: Re: Editing Live Compilations
PostPosted: Tue January 21, 2014 11:44 pm 
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hlniv wrote:
turned2black wrote:
open Audacity >> open a track >> import next track >> Use the time-shift tool (<-->) >> align the edges of the tracks so the audience noise overlap a bit >> highlight first/top track >> effect cross fade out >> highlight next/bottom track >> effect cross fade in >> repeat >> export >> go steal a copy of Audition


The most frustrating thing I haven't yet figured out is how to set up a multi-track project in Audactiy and export into individual tracks once the lining up, fading, etc... is complete. I've just always cut it back to a single track, exported, undid the cut, cut what I exported, shifted to the next track, and repeated. There has to be a better way. Any pointers on that one?

When cutting it up, I highlight the part of the tracks I want (you'll have to drag up or down) with the text tool, then >> file >> export selection. I would imagine there's a sexy way to do it, but it's always worked well for me.

But you guys should really do whatever ridleybradout does, because his shit is awesome.


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 Post subject: Re: Editing Live Compilations
PostPosted: Wed January 22, 2014 12:29 am 
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Yeah, I think I will follow ridleybradout's advice and try that first. It sounds like Audacity might not be the easiest or best way to go. I appreciate all the feed back from everyone.


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 Post subject: Re: Editing Live Compilations
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If you can steal a copy of Audition from the Internet I'd recommend doing so. It's incredibly easy and intuitive.


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 Post subject: Re: Editing Live Compilations
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I'm not above stealing from the internet. This is an option.


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 Post subject: Re: Editing Live Compilations
PostPosted: Wed January 22, 2014 12:45 am 
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Just don't get version 2.0

1.5 is fine, as is 3.0. Any of the version in the CS line after that will also work. (CS5, CS6, etc)

Just avoid 2.0, it's awful.


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