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Joined: Tue January 01, 2013 3:35 pm Posts: 32244 Location: Buenos Aires
hlniv wrote:
Faithfull
I am a Matt apologist, and I tend to believe that if the band plays the songs faster it's more likely due to a band-wide tendency rather than the will of one man... but note the crassness with which the song speeds up once Matt starts hitting the snare. Jeez, dude!
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ridleybradout wrote:
twoheadedboy wrote:
Wow, this Pittsburgh boot sounds INCREDIBLE. I would argue it's the best sounding live release they've ever done as a part of a series (i.e. Atlanta/Orpheum/Give Way/LO2L/LO10L etc. don't count). I would say that if Give Way is a 10.0, this is a 9.75. But man, Ed is REALLY struggling on the old stuff...
You can really tell it sounds that good from a radio rip?
Looking forward to hearing those samples hlniv
I was listening to it ON the radio as I am a SiriusXM subscriber. No, it's not perfect lossless audio but it's enough to tell this: Eliason improved the recording methods and mixing the first time around (in '11/'12), and at the very least, the mix is even better now. I also don't detect that these are hugely brickwalled, though they probably are to some extent.
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hlniv wrote:
ridleybradout wrote:
twoheadedboy wrote:
Wow, this Pittsburgh boot sounds INCREDIBLE. I would argue it's the best sounding live release they've ever done as a part of a series (i.e. Atlanta/Orpheum/Give Way/LO2L/LO10L etc. don't count). I would say that if Give Way is a 10.0, this is a 9.75. But man, Ed is REALLY struggling on the old stuff...
You can really tell it sounds that good from a radio rip?
Looking forward to hearing those samples hlniv
I don't know that I got the same initial reaction on the quality of the mix, it certainly is good. I haven't really given it a proper listen yet, only went through and cut the tracks. I did think the Lightning Bolt tunes sounded superb, though.
It will be later in the night EST before I get these up.
I have a pretty nice car stereo, so I make a lot of critical determinations in regards to audio from that.
Joined: Mon July 08, 2013 5:47 pm Posts: 3002 Location: Louisville, KY
twoheadedboy wrote:
hlniv wrote:
ridleybradout wrote:
twoheadedboy wrote:
Wow, this Pittsburgh boot sounds INCREDIBLE. I would argue it's the best sounding live release they've ever done as a part of a series (i.e. Atlanta/Orpheum/Give Way/LO2L/LO10L etc. don't count). I would say that if Give Way is a 10.0, this is a 9.75. But man, Ed is REALLY struggling on the old stuff...
You can really tell it sounds that good from a radio rip?
Looking forward to hearing those samples hlniv
I don't know that I got the same initial reaction on the quality of the mix, it certainly is good. I haven't really given it a proper listen yet, only went through and cut the tracks. I did think the Lightning Bolt tunes sounded superb, though.
It will be later in the night EST before I get these up.
I have a pretty nice car stereo, so I make a lot of critical determinations in regards to audio from that.
I've listened through this enough now to have an opinion - I think it is on par, but maybe slightly less desirable than the '12 bootlegs. Definitely similar, and I'm trying to account for the fact that I had a radio rip. I did notice a lot of abrupt mix changes at the beginning of songs, it was a little choppy when I was cutting the tracks. It's like they really threw this first one together. I have a feeling that these will improve as the releases continue.
And yes, the mix is good enough to blast it in your car. I did that this morning. Even with my copy being a Sirius feed rip.
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Birds in Hell wrote:
twoheadedboy wrote:
I also don't detect that these are hugely brickwalled, though they probably are to some extent.
If the 2011-2012 shows are any indication, Brett seems to retain a respectable amount of dynamics in the mix these days.
Certainly more than 2003, I find those largely unlistenable because of how compressed they sound.
We'll see with the FLACs, but the Sirius rip certainly looked mashed down a fair bit when I was cutting the tracks from the recording. I don't think it sounds quite as good as say, the Amsterdam shows from last year. But, this was the first, and it seems it was put together a little hastily in my opinion. Should get better as the releases roll in.
I also don't detect that these are hugely brickwalled, though they probably are to some extent.
If the 2011-2012 shows are any indication, Brett seems to retain a respectable amount of dynamics in the mix these days.
Certainly more than 2003, I find those largely unlistenable because of how compressed they sound.
We'll see with the FLACs, but the Sirius rip certainly looked mashed down a fair bit when I was cutting the tracks from the recording. I don't think it sounds quite as good as say, the Amsterdam shows from last year. But, this was the first, and it seems it was put together a little hastily in my opinion. Should get better as the releases roll in.
I've never listened to Sirius but I wouldn't be surprised if there's a fair amount of processing applied to the signal at their end, that's usually the case with radio broadcasts. I'd expect the original recording will sound much better but we'll see soon enough.
Joined: Thu January 10, 2013 9:06 pm Posts: 136 Location: Kenosha, WI
hlniv wrote:
Birds in Hell wrote:
twoheadedboy wrote:
I also don't detect that these are hugely brickwalled, though they probably are to some extent.
If the 2011-2012 shows are any indication, Brett seems to retain a respectable amount of dynamics in the mix these days.
Certainly more than 2003, I find those largely unlistenable because of how compressed they sound.
We'll see with the FLACs, but the Sirius rip certainly looked mashed down a fair bit when I was cutting the tracks from the recording. I don't think it sounds quite as good as say, the Amsterdam shows from last year. But, this was the first, and it seems it was put together a little hastily in my opinion. Should get better as the releases roll in.
SiriusXM broadcasts are brickwalled by default, I'm pretty sure that's been established, like any radio source. And, unless there's a fully digital way to rip the broadcasts, you're converting a smashed radio broadcast back to digital files with an analog step, which is less than ideal. So I'm sure the legit FLAC's will be higher quality than a D>additionally compressed and brickwalled>A>D rip.
Joined: Mon July 08, 2013 5:47 pm Posts: 3002 Location: Louisville, KY
twoheadedboy wrote:
hlniv wrote:
Birds in Hell wrote:
twoheadedboy wrote:
I also don't detect that these are hugely brickwalled, though they probably are to some extent.
If the 2011-2012 shows are any indication, Brett seems to retain a respectable amount of dynamics in the mix these days.
Certainly more than 2003, I find those largely unlistenable because of how compressed they sound.
We'll see with the FLACs, but the Sirius rip certainly looked mashed down a fair bit when I was cutting the tracks from the recording. I don't think it sounds quite as good as say, the Amsterdam shows from last year. But, this was the first, and it seems it was put together a little hastily in my opinion. Should get better as the releases roll in.
SiriusXM broadcasts are brickwalled by default, I'm pretty sure that's been established, like any radio source. And, unless there's a fully digital way to rip the broadcasts, you're converting a smashed radio broadcast back to digital files with an analog step, which is less than ideal. So I'm sure the legit FLAC's will be higher quality than a D>additionally compressed and brickwalled>A>D rip.
All true. The FLACs should be much improved.
Let the Records Play will still sound bland, I'm sure, though. No way around that.
Joined: Tue January 01, 2013 2:04 pm Posts: 37156 Location: September 2020 Poster of the Month
Birds in Hell wrote:
hlniv wrote:
Birds in Hell wrote:
twoheadedboy wrote:
I also don't detect that these are hugely brickwalled, though they probably are to some extent.
If the 2011-2012 shows are any indication, Brett seems to retain a respectable amount of dynamics in the mix these days.
Certainly more than 2003, I find those largely unlistenable because of how compressed they sound.
We'll see with the FLACs, but the Sirius rip certainly looked mashed down a fair bit when I was cutting the tracks from the recording. I don't think it sounds quite as good as say, the Amsterdam shows from last year. But, this was the first, and it seems it was put together a little hastily in my opinion. Should get better as the releases roll in.
I've never listened to Sirius but I wouldn't be surprised if there's a fair amount of processing applied to the signal at their end, that's usually the case with radio broadcasts. I'd expect the original recording will sound much better but we'll see soon enough.
Yeah, they definitely put a shit ton of processing on before it hits the air.
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