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Jorge · **Posted:** Tue September 06, 2022 10:28 pm

"Evenflow" sounds better tuned down I think

Thurman Murman · **Joined:** Sun January 06, 2013 4:25 am **Posts:** 1278

Thanks for posting these comparisons...the Life Wasted one is particularly jarring.

Is the motivation for the lower key just strictly to accomodate Ed's voice?

96583UP · **Joined:** Sun September 15, 2013 5:50 am **Posts:** 22293

Jorge wrote:

"Evenflow" sounds better tuned down I think

i seem to recall the early live versions being very low and slow

dprival78 · **Posted:** Tue September 06, 2022 10:43 pm

they even tuned down wishlist and off he goes.. why?

Birds in Hell · **Joined:** Tue January 01, 2013 9:38 pm **Posts:** 15099

dprival78 wrote:

they even tuned down wishlist and off he goes.. why?

It seems perverse to tune down those songs (Better Man and Corduroy too), while more vocally demanding songs like Garden and Jeremy are still in standard.

Birds in Hell · **Joined:** Tue January 01, 2013 9:38 pm **Posts:** 15099

Jorge wrote:

"Evenflow" sounds better tuned down I think

Yeah, I don’t think it suffers too badly.

I don’t think tuning down is inherently a bad idea (as I said in this thread earlier), it’s just not been very successful for these guys when they’ve attempted it before.

wease · **Posted:** Wed September 07, 2022 12:05 am

Birds in Hell wrote:

dprival78 wrote:

they even tuned down wishlist and off he goes.. why?

It seems perverse to tune down those songs (Better Man and Corduroy too), while more vocally demanding songs like Garden and Jeremy are still in standard.

I’m sure it’s a fucking bitch to tune that 12-string bass down a half-step.

totalsellout · **Joined:** Fri October 18, 2013 3:56 am **Posts:** 26

Watching a stream of the Hamilton show tonight, sounded like the whole show was played a full step down, so D tuning sure seems to be the norm now.
So jarring to hear songs like Corduroy and Alive in a different key than you've heard it your entire life until now.

I guess Boom has to rewrite his chord charts for each song but at least he doesn't have to get near all those black keys that must scare him.

warehouse · **Joined:** Sat January 05, 2013 3:34 pm **Posts:** 4361

wease wrote:

Birds in Hell wrote:

dprival78 wrote:

they even tuned down wishlist and off he goes.. why?

It seems perverse to tune down those songs (Better Man and Corduroy too), while more vocally demanding songs like Garden and Jeremy are still in standard.

I’m sure it’s a fucking bitch to tune that 12-string bass down a half-step.

i think down-tuning is probably better than ed ruining his voice or sounding completely off. i wonder if it will be more noticeable in concert, i don't think it's every really stuck out to me when seeing a show.

tragabigzanda · **Posted:** Wed September 07, 2022 1:12 pm

The cool potential outcome could be a new album of primarily downtuned material

Jorge · **Posted:** Wed September 07, 2022 2:02 pm

Hopefully we get to the point where Ed is just kind of talk-singing, like Lou Reed or something

Farmer John · **Joined:** Wed January 02, 2013 9:25 pm **Posts:** 4243

For their next album, they should make a point of downtuning all the songs and then blow us all away when they uptune them live.

96583UP · **Joined:** Sun September 15, 2013 5:50 am **Posts:** 22293

Jorge wrote:

Hopefully we get to the point where Ed is just kind of talk-singing, like Lou Reed or something

every show gets Bu$hleager!!!

Mickey · **Posted:** Thu September 22, 2022 5:23 pm

96583UP wrote:

Jorge wrote:

Hopefully we get to the point where Ed is just kind of talk-singing, like Lou Reed or something

every show gets Bu$hleager!!!

God I hope Bush dies while PJ are on tour.

Let's all laugh at Rangers · **Joined:** Thu January 31, 2013 7:26 pm **Posts:** 368

wease wrote:

Birds in Hell wrote:

dprival78 wrote:

they even tuned down wishlist and off he goes.. why?

It seems perverse to tune down those songs (Better Man and Corduroy too), while more vocally demanding songs like Garden and Jeremy are still in standard.

I’m sure it’s a fucking bitch to tune that 12-string bass down a half-step.

I was at the 1st night in Hyde Park and I'm sure he played a bass with at least 8 strings before then as well, so was convinced they played Why Go (my other gig was 2010 which could be why) before I heard the boot.

The only 2 I notice with my ears is Crazy Mary (I always thought it was in B but live it sounds like A) and WMA. Mostly I don't mind, a guitar can easily drift half a step away without the owner even noticing (I'm not talking professionals or people in bands, where a guitar needs to be in tune with other instruments). I don't know how I feel though, I mean maybe just accomodate the tuning by singing slightly differently instead (in other words not all the same notes, but something that still works)?

Songs now being played in a lower key

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