Last Exit was written in Oakland.

it is.. what's not subjective is whether or not you're playing in time with the rest of the band.. that was my point earlier that confused Jorge so much

I've been saying the same thing this whole time. You keep misunderstanding me and taking my words out of context. This is dumb. You're just trying to "beat" me at this somehow and it shouldn't even be a competition. It's all cause you started this whole thing by "durrr" mocking me and my opinion. And of course anytime there's any sort of conflict with tree_ on the board you'll see wease is the first one to pile on.

Like I said, we're speaking different languages. You're talking about how hard it is to play complex time signatures, and I already told you I don't disagree that yes, all things being equal, playing to a complex time signature is harder than the more intuitive 4/4 we in the western music tradition are hardwired to understand.

I'm talking about the skill it takes to use the drums expressively, to bring color, movement, groove, swing, dynamics, to even a 4/4 beat. Not to be a human metronome. This is what you said any drummer can do and is devoid of any creativity (your words), and that you don't understand very well (also your words).

I hope this argument goes on forever!