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Strat wrote:
PHATJ wrote:
Strat wrote:
PHATJ wrote:
It’s all about $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
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You actually believe it’s not?
Yes I do honestly believe that Pearl Jam is not some corporate cock sucking sell out only it it for the money
Dude. The reason they choose venues and market them is for money. They aren’t handing out tickets for free are they? They are going to play whatever venues they think can maximize a financial return for the effort and time and money spent. That’s just reality.
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EJ wrote:
stop involving the Chicago Cubs in their creative process
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Birds in Hell wrote:
Have a sense of why they're playing and what they want to achieve musically which goes beyond simply pleasing the audience.
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1. Free for all on openers and closers--no more formulas 2. If Ed wants to tell long stories, go do some interviews 3. Different stage footprint--bring McCready to the people 4. New music 5. Less covers or new covers or takes on modern songs 6. More guest performances / jams 7. Smaller venues 8. Limit Ten Club tickets per tour 9. Better use of video and lights 10. Less slow songs in large chunks
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replace Ed with Dave A
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1. Free for all on openers and closers--no more formulas 2. If Ed wants to tell long stories, go do some interviews 3. Different stage footprint--bring McCready to the people 4. New music 5. Less covers or new covers or takes on modern songs 6. More guest performances / jams 7. Smaller venues 8. Limit Ten Club tickets per tour 9. Better use of video and lights 10. Less slow songs in large chunks
Bonus 11. First ten rows all lotteries every show
3 & 6 - oh, no. No, no, no.
8. Prioritizing lottery picks takes care of this item naturally.
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emanon wrote:
I think I either need to drink less to become more alert, or more so as not to care.
1. Free for all on openers and closers--no more formulas 2. If Ed wants to tell long stories, go do some interviews 3. Different stage footprint--bring McCready to the people 4. New music 5. Less covers or new covers or takes on modern songs 6. More guest performances / jams 7. Smaller venues 8. Limit Ten Club tickets per tour 9. Better use of video and lights 10. Less slow songs in large chunks
Bonus 11. First ten rows all lotteries every show
1, 2, 4, 7, 9, 10 = yes
As for 9, I'm reminded of seeing Radiohead on their recent tour. What they do with their video screen is absolutely perfect and adds a whole different flavor to the show. And it's not like they're spending U2 amounts of money doing it. Something PJ should absolutely steal.
1. Free for all on openers and closers--no more formulas 2. If Ed wants to tell long stories, go do some interviews 3. Different stage footprint--bring McCready to the people 4. New music 5. Less covers or new covers or takes on modern songs 6. More guest performances / jams 7. Smaller venues 8. Limit Ten Club tickets per tour 9. Better use of video and lights 10. Less slow songs in large chunks
Bonus 11. First ten rows all lotteries every show
1, 2, 4, 7, 9, 10 = yes
As for 9, I'm reminded of seeing Radiohead on their recent tour. What they do with their video screen is absolutely perfect and adds a whole different flavor to the show. And it's not like they're spending U2 amounts of money doing it. Something PJ should absolutely steal.
Radiohead didn't sell any seats behind the stage either. I don't see PJ doing this.
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emanon wrote:
I think I either need to drink less to become more alert, or more so as not to care.
I admit at the outset that I thoroughly have enjoyed every Pearl Jam concert I attended so I am posting with that in mind:
1) I think they should revert back to opening shows with a single atmospheric tune (Of the Girl, Oceans, Long Road, etc.) to set the mood and jump into the old formula of powering through some hard rock songs. I think this formula worked well for them and managed to minimize the chatter in the first 30-45 mins of the show. I think the 3-4 slow tunes in a row gets old quick and works better when they utilize that at the appropriate time and place (Ride Festival 2016 as a great example).
2) I personally would prefer they play 4-5 fewer songs and extend/jam out the songs they do play to fill that time. I’m not asking for a Phish-style noodle fest, but there are many songs that either have or could be enhanced with the band extending out a bit and breathing some space into those songs live. The extensions should try to avoid excessive call and responses. I just want to hear the band play more and off each other.
3) If no opening band, please start the show earlier or bring back the opening band. Not so much a nod to the Fenway folks, but if you started the show at 9:00 with the opening band at 8:00, then you play an evening with... and start playing at 9:00, what’s the point for the fans?
I admit at the outset that I thoroughly have enjoyed every Pearl Jam concert I attended so I am posting with that in mind:
3) If no opening band, please start the show earlier or bring back the opening band. Not so much a nod to the Fenway folks, but if you started the show at 9:00 with the opening band at 8:00, then you play an evening with... and start playing at 9:00, what’s the point for the fans?
I agree. I love to checkout the openers. However, and unfortunately, Pearl Jam are one of the bands that have fans that like ONLY Pearl Jam, Thus, openers are wasted on these people. Dave Matthews and Bruce Springsteen come to mind as well. They don't have openers either.
I've seen some great openers. The obvious Pearl Jam ones - Ben Harper, Sleater -Kinney to name two, but I've also caught with other bands-Beta Band, St Vincent, Primus, Le Burcherettes, PJ Harvey. I could go on and on.
I'm friends with a few of these people of facebook. I'll post that I'm at Father John Misty, Sigur Ros, etc and I usually get a comment like "Never heard of them. I'll check them out".
I agree. I love to checkout the openers. However, and unfortunately, Pearl Jam are one of the bands that have fans that like ONLY Pearl Jam, Thus, openers are wasted on these people.
I want Pearl Jam to make it their mission to aggressively alienate these people.
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Stone should pull a switcheroo and manopause-out and insist that Ed fire Boom over eggs
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Pry the wine bottle from Ed's mouth. Get Mike on cocaine again. Replace Matt with Dave A or Dave K. Give Jeff his cool hats back. Give 80% creative control back to Stone.
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