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Post subject: Re: Vault Release #7 - Soldier Field '95
Posted: Thu July 19, 2018 1:57 am
Future Drummer
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tragabigzanda wrote:
Wendy Carlos's Twin wrote:
bodysnatcher wrote:
Probably the Berlin show since it was broadcast on radio and any bootlegger could make a decent pressing of it
Berlin was released as a professional promo. None of the vault releases so far fall into that category.
I'm sure a lot more shows were multi-tracked besides San Sebastian and Berlin.
Brett Eliason did an interview for Tape Op a while back, and I think I recall him basically saying that the gear was a limiting factor until the Binarual era; that it was rarely feasible to capture an entire show prior to that.
I think too much is made of this fact. If fans really want to be anal and demand 100% complete shows like 2000 and on, they are being unrealistic. I'm sure there are more than a few 95% complete shows that could be released today. They should splice out the incomplete song or splice in an audience tape or desk recording to make it "complete", and get on with it already.
Post subject: Re: Vault Release #7 - Soldier Field '95
Posted: Thu July 19, 2018 2:00 am
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Wendy Carlos's Twin wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:
Wendy Carlos's Twin wrote:
bodysnatcher wrote:
Probably the Berlin show since it was broadcast on radio and any bootlegger could make a decent pressing of it
Berlin was released as a professional promo. None of the vault releases so far fall into that category.
I'm sure a lot more shows were multi-tracked besides San Sebastian and Berlin.
Brett Eliason did an interview for Tape Op a while back, and I think I recall him basically saying that the gear was a limiting factor until the Binarual era; that it was rarely feasible to capture an entire show prior to that.
I think too much is made of this fact. If fans really want to be anal and demand 100% complete shows like 2000 and on, they are being unrealistic. I'm sure there are more than a few 95% complete shows that could be released today. They should splice out the incomplete song or splice in an audience tape or desk recording to make it "complete", and get on with it already.
I'd rather have a tour compilation than a 90% complete show, but hey - whatever gets this stuff out!
Post subject: Re: Vault Release #7 - Soldier Field '95
Posted: Thu July 19, 2018 2:07 am
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Joined: Tue January 01, 2013 9:38 pm Posts: 15136
Wendy Carlos's Twin wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:
Wendy Carlos's Twin wrote:
bodysnatcher wrote:
Probably the Berlin show since it was broadcast on radio and any bootlegger could make a decent pressing of it
Berlin was released as a professional promo. None of the vault releases so far fall into that category.
I'm sure a lot more shows were multi-tracked besides San Sebastian and Berlin.
Brett Eliason did an interview for Tape Op a while back, and I think I recall him basically saying that the gear was a limiting factor until the Binarual era; that it was rarely feasible to capture an entire show prior to that.
I think too much is made of this fact. If fans really want to be anal and demand 100% complete shows like 2000 and on, they are being unrealistic. I'm sure there are more than a few 95% complete shows that could be released today. They should splice out the incomplete song or splice in an audience tape or desk recording to make it "complete", and get on with it already.
I may lose my mind if people moan about Vault releases being "incomplete" again, as though it's just some arbitrary decision by the band.
Post subject: Re: Vault Release #7 - Soldier Field '95
Posted: Thu July 19, 2018 5:40 pm
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Joined: Tue January 01, 2013 6:06 pm Posts: 8564
I have no quibbles with semi-complete shows, but it has been kind of frustrating that the most unique part of every show is always coincidentally where the dropout on the recording is -- "Push Me Pull Me," "Dead Man," the Soldier Field covers. Like, for once couldn't they do a tape flip during "Better Man?"
I’ve been fooled like this before but I wonder if it’s not alpine valley 98?
Those pro shot videos that have now circulated are interesting and I’ve heard two professional sounding recordings on pj radio from this show now too. MFC and I believe tremor Christ
Post subject: Re: Vault Release #7 - Soldier Field '95
Posted: Sat July 21, 2018 2:14 am
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Strat wrote:
I’ve been fooled like this before but I wonder if it’s not alpine valley 98?
Those pro shot videos that have now circulated are interesting and I’ve heard two professional sounding recordings on pj radio from this show now too. MFC and I believe tremor Christ
i think mfc from that show was used on lo2l.
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I’ve been fooled like this before but I wonder if it’s not alpine valley 98?
Those pro shot videos that have now circulated are interesting and I’ve heard two professional sounding recordings on pj radio from this show now too. MFC and I believe tremor Christ
i think mfc from that show was used on lo2l.
It was absolutely a different recording of it though. It was not the same mix/master from lo2l.
Post subject: Re: Vault Release #7 - Soldier Field '95
Posted: Sat July 21, 2018 8:15 pm
Troglodyte
Joined: Wed December 19, 2012 9:53 pm Posts: 22532 Location: Chapel Hill, NC, USA
Strat wrote:
I’ve been fooled like this before but I wonder if it’s not alpine valley 98?
Those pro shot videos that have now circulated are interesting and I’ve heard two professional sounding recordings on pj radio from this show now too. MFC and I believe tremor Christ
Nah, at this point, we're only a couple of years from the 10yr anniversary of those shows.
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Post subject: Re: Vault Release #7 - Soldier Field '95
Posted: Sat July 21, 2018 8:18 pm
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B wrote:
Strat wrote:
I’ve been fooled like this before but I wonder if it’s not alpine valley 98?
Those pro shot videos that have now circulated are interesting and I’ve heard two professional sounding recordings on pj radio from this show now too. MFC and I believe tremor Christ
Nah, at this point, we're only a couple of years from the 10yr anniversary of those shows.
Post subject: Re: Vault Release #7 - Soldier Field '95
Posted: Sat July 21, 2018 8:18 pm
Troglodyte
Joined: Wed December 19, 2012 9:53 pm Posts: 22532 Location: Chapel Hill, NC, USA
Simple Torture wrote:
B wrote:
Strat wrote:
I’ve been fooled like this before but I wonder if it’s not alpine valley 98?
Those pro shot videos that have now circulated are interesting and I’ve heard two professional sounding recordings on pj radio from this show now too. MFC and I believe tremor Christ
Nah, at this point, we're only a couple of years from the 10yr anniversary of those shows.
strat was talking about the '98 shows.
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Post subject: Re: Vault Release #7 - Soldier Field '95
Posted: Sat July 21, 2018 8:21 pm
Future Drummer
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B wrote:
Simple Torture wrote:
B wrote:
Strat wrote:
I’ve been fooled like this before but I wonder if it’s not alpine valley 98?
Those pro shot videos that have now circulated are interesting and I’ve heard two professional sounding recordings on pj radio from this show now too. MFC and I believe tremor Christ
Nah, at this point, we're only a couple of years from the 10yr anniversary of those shows.
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