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Post subject: Re: Vault Release #7 - Soldier Field '95
Posted: Tue July 11, 2017 5:26 pm
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Ideally what should be done is release a TON of old shows digitally. Let us spend a shit load of money on those. Whatever they have. Then, annually they could pick meaningful or special shows to release on vinyl to appease the vinyl lovers.
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Post subject: Re: Vault Release #7 - Soldier Field '95
Posted: Tue July 11, 2017 5:33 pm
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E.H. Ruddock wrote:
Ideally what should be done is release a TON of old shows digitally. Let us spend a shit load of money on those. Whatever they have. Then, annually they could pick meaningful or special shows to release on vinyl to appease the vinyl lovers.
This is the Grateful Dead model, right? Dick's Picks and such?
I do oppose the "wait until vinyl is manufactured before releasing digital files" approach. I doubt it'd put a dent in the sales of the physical media.
Post subject: Re: Vault Release #7 - Soldier Field '95
Posted: Tue July 11, 2017 5:36 pm
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Simple Torture wrote:
E.H. Ruddock wrote:
Ideally what should be done is release a TON of old shows digitally. Let us spend a shit load of money on those. Whatever they have. Then, annually they could pick meaningful or special shows to release on vinyl to appease the vinyl lovers.
This is the Grateful Dead model, right? Dick's Picks and such?
I do oppose the "wait until vinyl is manufactured before releasing digital files" approach. I doubt it'd put a dent in the sales of the physical media.
Yeah pretty much how GD does it. And I agree, digital sales won't hurt vinyl sales at all. Two different completionist markets.
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Post subject: Re: Vault Release #7 - Soldier Field '95
Posted: Tue July 11, 2017 6:51 pm
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B wrote:
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Eliason has tried to resist the current trend to mix albums as loudly as possible. He likes his mixes to have variation, but his product does have to stand up to other modern products. In the end, he hopes fans are successful at resisting the "louder is better" trend.
Eliason has been recording shows since 1993, though he doesn't necessarily have every show. He, the Ten Club, and the band are always looking at what can be modernized or released, but Tim B. did note that sometimes management limits the ideas put before the band so their excitement level always stays high for anything that is released.
The much hated loss of Rockin' in the Free World and Sonic Reducer from the Drop in the Park vinyl was attributed to space. Adding those shows would have required a second disc and driven up the price of the reissue.
Post subject: Re: Vault Release #7 - Soldier Field '95
Posted: Tue July 11, 2017 7:14 pm
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bodysnatcher wrote:
B wrote:
Quote:
Eliason has tried to resist the current trend to mix albums as loudly as possible. He likes his mixes to have variation, but his product does have to stand up to other modern products. In the end, he hopes fans are successful at resisting the "louder is better" trend.
Eliason has been recording shows since 1993, though he doesn't necessarily have every show. He, the Ten Club, and the band are always looking at what can be modernized or released, but Tim B. did note that sometimes management limits the ideas put before the band so their excitement level always stays high for anything that is released.
The much hated loss of Rockin' in the Free World and Sonic Reducer from the Drop in the Park vinyl was attributed to space. Adding those shows would have required a second disc and driven up the price of the reissue.
Post subject: Re: Vault Release #7 - Soldier Field '95
Posted: Tue July 11, 2017 7:19 pm
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Simple Torture wrote:
bodysnatcher wrote:
B wrote:
Quote:
Eliason has tried to resist the current trend to mix albums as loudly as possible. He likes his mixes to have variation, but his product does have to stand up to other modern products. In the end, he hopes fans are successful at resisting the "louder is better" trend.
Eliason has been recording shows since 1993, though he doesn't necessarily have every show. He, the Ten Club, and the band are always looking at what can be modernized or released, but Tim B. did note that sometimes management limits the ideas put before the band so their excitement level always stays high for anything that is released.
The much hated loss of Rockin' in the Free World and Sonic Reducer from the Drop in the Park vinyl was attributed to space. Adding those shows would have required a second disc and driven up the price of the reissue.
Post subject: Re: Vault Release #7 - Soldier Field '95
Posted: Tue July 11, 2017 7:51 pm
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Simple Torture wrote:
bodysnatcher wrote:
B wrote:
Quote:
Eliason has tried to resist the current trend to mix albums as loudly as possible. He likes his mixes to have variation, but his product does have to stand up to other modern products. In the end, he hopes fans are successful at resisting the "louder is better" trend.
Eliason has been recording shows since 1993, though he doesn't necessarily have every show. He, the Ten Club, and the band are always looking at what can be modernized or released, but Tim B. did note that sometimes management limits the ideas put before the band so their excitement level always stays high for anything that is released.
The much hated loss of Rockin' in the Free World and Sonic Reducer from the Drop in the Park vinyl was attributed to space. Adding those shows would have required a second disc and driven up the price of the reissue.
Post subject: Re: Vault Release #7 - Soldier Field '95
Posted: Tue July 11, 2017 8:10 pm
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bodysnatcher wrote:
Simple Torture wrote:
bodysnatcher wrote:
B wrote:
Quote:
Eliason has tried to resist the current trend to mix albums as loudly as possible. He likes his mixes to have variation, but his product does have to stand up to other modern products. In the end, he hopes fans are successful at resisting the "louder is better" trend.
Eliason has been recording shows since 1993, though he doesn't necessarily have every show. He, the Ten Club, and the band are always looking at what can be modernized or released, but Tim B. did note that sometimes management limits the ideas put before the band so their excitement level always stays high for anything that is released.
The much hated loss of Rockin' in the Free World and Sonic Reducer from the Drop in the Park vinyl was attributed to space. Adding those shows would have required a second disc and driven up the price of the reissue.
Post subject: Re: Vault Release #7 - Soldier Field '95
Posted: Tue July 11, 2017 8:16 pm
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bodysnatcher wrote:
Simple Torture wrote:
bodysnatcher wrote:
B wrote:
Quote:
Eliason has tried to resist the current trend to mix albums as loudly as possible. He likes his mixes to have variation, but his product does have to stand up to other modern products. In the end, he hopes fans are successful at resisting the "louder is better" trend.
Eliason has been recording shows since 1993, though he doesn't necessarily have every show. He, the Ten Club, and the band are always looking at what can be modernized or released, but Tim B. did note that sometimes management limits the ideas put before the band so their excitement level always stays high for anything that is released.
The much hated loss of Rockin' in the Free World and Sonic Reducer from the Drop in the Park vinyl was attributed to space. Adding those shows would have required a second disc and driven up the price of the reissue.
Post subject: Re: Vault Release #7 - Soldier Field '95
Posted: Tue July 11, 2017 8:36 pm
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bodysnatcher wrote:
B wrote:
Quote:
Eliason has tried to resist the current trend to mix albums as loudly as possible. He likes his mixes to have variation, but his product does have to stand up to other modern products. In the end, he hopes fans are successful at resisting the "louder is better" trend.
Eliason has been recording shows since 1993, though he doesn't necessarily have every show. He, the Ten Club, and the band are always looking at what can be modernized or released, but Tim B. did note that sometimes management limits the ideas put before the band so their excitement level always stays high for anything that is released.
The much hated loss of Rockin' in the Free World and Sonic Reducer from the Drop in the Park vinyl was attributed to space. Adding those shows would have required a second disc and driven up the price of the reissue.
Post subject: Re: Vault Release #7 - Soldier Field '95
Posted: Tue July 11, 2017 8:37 pm
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Rangi Guy wrote:
bodysnatcher wrote:
Simple Torture wrote:
bodysnatcher wrote:
B wrote:
Quote:
Eliason has tried to resist the current trend to mix albums as loudly as possible. He likes his mixes to have variation, but his product does have to stand up to other modern products. In the end, he hopes fans are successful at resisting the "louder is better" trend.
Eliason has been recording shows since 1993, though he doesn't necessarily have every show. He, the Ten Club, and the band are always looking at what can be modernized or released, but Tim B. did note that sometimes management limits the ideas put before the band so their excitement level always stays high for anything that is released.
The much hated loss of Rockin' in the Free World and Sonic Reducer from the Drop in the Park vinyl was attributed to space. Adding those shows would have required a second disc and driven up the price of the reissue.
Post subject: Re: Vault Release #7 - Soldier Field '95
Posted: Tue July 11, 2017 9:01 pm
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Rangi Guy wrote:
bodysnatcher wrote:
Simple Torture wrote:
bodysnatcher wrote:
B wrote:
Quote:
Eliason has tried to resist the current trend to mix albums as loudly as possible. He likes his mixes to have variation, but his product does have to stand up to other modern products. In the end, he hopes fans are successful at resisting the "louder is better" trend.
Eliason has been recording shows since 1993, though he doesn't necessarily have every show. He, the Ten Club, and the band are always looking at what can be modernized or released, but Tim B. did note that sometimes management limits the ideas put before the band so their excitement level always stays high for anything that is released.
The much hated loss of Rockin' in the Free World and Sonic Reducer from the Drop in the Park vinyl was attributed to space. Adding those shows would have required a second disc and driven up the price of the reissue.
Post subject: Re: Vault Release #7 - Soldier Field '95
Posted: Tue July 11, 2017 10:33 pm
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Simple Torture wrote:
bodysnatcher wrote:
Simple Torture wrote:
bodysnatcher wrote:
B wrote:
Quote:
Eliason has tried to resist the current trend to mix albums as loudly as possible. He likes his mixes to have variation, but his product does have to stand up to other modern products. In the end, he hopes fans are successful at resisting the "louder is better" trend.
Eliason has been recording shows since 1993, though he doesn't necessarily have every show. He, the Ten Club, and the band are always looking at what can be modernized or released, but Tim B. did note that sometimes management limits the ideas put before the band so their excitement level always stays high for anything that is released.
The much hated loss of Rockin' in the Free World and Sonic Reducer from the Drop in the Park vinyl was attributed to space. Adding those shows would have required a second disc and driven up the price of the reissue.
Post subject: Re: Vault Release #7 - Soldier Field '95
Posted: Wed July 12, 2017 2:26 am
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E.H. Ruddock wrote:
Ideally what should be done is release a TON of old shows digitally. Let us spend a shit load of money on those. Whatever they have. Then, annually they could pick meaningful or special shows to release on vinyl to appease the vinyl lovers.
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Post subject: Re: Vault Release #7 - Soldier Field '95
Posted: Wed July 12, 2017 6:15 pm
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CopperTom wrote:
Sure, but you can acknowledge neither source is bad and we could move on...
Are you seriously arguing that the existence of a tinny, mono radio broadcast and an audience recording from the back of an arena is "good enough" to exclude a classic show from being a vault release?
Los Angeles '98 was available in much better quality than this, and nobody complained about that show...
Sure, but you can acknowledge neither source is bad and we could move on...
Are you seriously arguing that the existence of a tinny, mono radio broadcast and an audience recording from the back of an arena is "good enough" to exclude a classic show from being a vault release?
Los Angeles '98 was available in much better quality than this, and nobody complained about that show...
No, that's not remotely what I said. No one complained about the quality of these sources from 7-11-1995 through 7-9-2017. No one. Saying they're bad on 7-10-2017 after 22 years is flat out absurd. Of course an official release is an upgrade, but that doesn't mean the existing sources are bad.
Personally, I would want complete recordings of lesser-loved and circulated concerts. This is probably the second most common pre official bootleg US show behind only Atlanta 94. I also feel there are few complete recordings.
I am excited about this as this is one of my early favorites.
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