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 Post subject: Re: Binaural / Riot Act / Avocado Vinyl Re-Issues?
PostPosted: Mon September 25, 2017 11:06 pm 
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Are you sure it'd be lossy? It's not like there's some clock syncing that needs to happen between converters; it's simply routing the digital stream signal via a virtual route, and Soundflower lets you adjust both the input and output format. If you're just dumping it into Logic or Audacity or something, why wouldn't the end quality be the exact same?

I guess what I mean is that my preference would be to extract the original files, not create a rip and possibly introduce additional issues. I have a Spotify Premium account set to "extreme" quality, which I believe is 320kbps MP3 (there's no lossless option). Given the choice, I'd prefer to have the original MP3 files over a lossless recording of the lossy stream, if that makes sense.

Yeah this would only work well with good hardware both on the playback end and record end to do well. And then, assuming the file being streamed is lossy, you'd have to save it as a lossless file to not make it any more lossy than it already was. But with the right setup you could make a really good recording of it.


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 Post subject: Re: Binaural / Riot Act / Avocado Vinyl Re-Issues?
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so I haven't really made my way through all of S/T yet - just poking around. The beginning of Inside Job really feels so much richer. the whole thing, really. There's a clarity and precision and depth to this performance that I hadn't really noticed before.

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 Post subject: Re: Binaural / Riot Act / Avocado Vinyl Re-Issues?
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my spotify playlist has a live version of the reprise and army reserve

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 Post subject: Re: Binaural / Riot Act / Avocado Vinyl Re-Issues?
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My apologies if this has already been stated, didn't see it anyway. If we buy the vinyl, will we get access to digital files? I honestly have no interest in the vinyl but would love to have the remasters and especially the remix of S/T.


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My apologies if this has already been stated, didn't see it anyway. If we buy the vinyl, will we get access to digital files? I honestly have no interest in the vinyl but would love to have the remasters and especially the remix of S/T.


Based on previous re-releases, they don't roll like that.


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I fully expect you all to be livid when you find out it's the Spotify mix.

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I'd be so relieved if that were the case!

My main concern is that this good sounding master will be a temporary curio that disappears as swiftly as it arrived.


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 Post subject: Re: Binaural / Riot Act / Avocado Vinyl Re-Issues?
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matt is really prominent in the come back mix, which is much more delicate

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 Post subject: Re: Binaural / Riot Act / Avocado Vinyl Re-Issues?
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I have Spotify, and all this talk made me go listen to the records... but they don't sound different at all to me. What am I missing?

Someone posted a couple of pages back that there was a lyric change in 'Come Back' but I didn't hear one.

Avocado sounds the same :/


Try clearing the cache for the app. You may just have old versions downloaded.


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 Post subject: Re: Binaural / Riot Act / Avocado Vinyl Re-Issues?
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MissYouAllDay wrote:
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I have Spotify, and all this talk made me go listen to the records... but they don't sound different at all to me. What am I missing?

Someone posted a couple of pages back that there was a lyric change in 'Come Back' but I didn't hear one.

Avocado sounds the same :/


Try clearing the cache for the app. You may just have old versions downloaded.

How do we do this for spotify?


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 Post subject: Re: Binaural / Riot Act / Avocado Vinyl Re-Issues?
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I fully expect you all to be livid when you find out it's the Spotify mix.

how would spotify have a separate mix (I think you might be right, btw, since a few backspacer songs sounded a bit different)?

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 Post subject: Re: Binaural / Riot Act / Avocado Vinyl Re-Issues?
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So is the lyric change in Come Back? That will be the biggest indicator that what most others are hearing is true. HALP


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 Post subject: Re: Binaural / Riot Act / Avocado Vinyl Re-Issues?
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Though I do feel like there is a greater separation of instrument sin the outro to Inside Job.

Though, the recordings still feel a bit abrasive.


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Strat wrote:
So is the lyric change in Come Back? That will be the biggest indicator that what most others are hearing is true. HALP

I presumed that was a troll post.


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Birds in Hell wrote:
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So is the lyric change in Come Back? That will be the biggest indicator that what most others are hearing is true. HALP

I presumed that was a troll post.

Me too. Thanks for clarifying!


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 Post subject: Re: Binaural / Riot Act / Avocado Vinyl Re-Issues?
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stip wrote:
McParadigm wrote:
I fully expect you all to be livid when you find out it's the Spotify mix.

how would spotify have a separate mix (I think you might be right, btw, since a few backspacer songs sounded a bit different)?

My presumption is that a remaster of the original S/T mix was prepared, along with Binaural and Riot Act, however at some stage a decision was made to instead have Brendan create an entirely new mix for the reissue. Maybe the band decided they didn't like the original mix after all, who knows. I'm guessing that when the band's management forwarded the updated files to Spotify, someone sent the original mix remaster inadvertently instead of Brendan's new mix, hence my fear that this version will disappear once the error is realised.

I could be way off here, of course, but this certainly sounds very much like the original mix just with a lot more dynamics and detail.


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Birds in Hell wrote:
stip wrote:
McParadigm wrote:
I fully expect you all to be livid when you find out it's the Spotify mix.

how would spotify have a separate mix (I think you might be right, btw, since a few backspacer songs sounded a bit different)?

My presumption is that a remaster of the original S/T mix was prepared, along with Binaural and Riot Act, however at some stage a decision was made to instead have Brendan create an entirely new mix for the reissue. Maybe the band decided they didn't like the original mix after all, who knows. I'm guessing that when the band's management forwarded the updated files to Spotify, someone sent the original mix remaster inadvertently instead of Brendan's new mix, hence my fear that this version will disappear once the error is realised.

I could be way off here, of course, but this certainly sounds very much like the original mix just with a lot more dynamics and detail.

You might like the new "official" ones as well.

Though, i still can't hear much of a difference. But i dont think I have the original album files on me right now :( so i can't tell a difference.


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Birds in Hell wrote:
stip wrote:
McParadigm wrote:
I fully expect you all to be livid when you find out it's the Spotify mix.

how would spotify have a separate mix (I think you might be right, btw, since a few backspacer songs sounded a bit different)?

My presumption is that a remaster of the original S/T mix was prepared, along with Binaural and Riot Act, however at some stage a decision was made to instead have Brendan create an entirely new mix for the reissue. Maybe the band decided they didn't like the original mix after all, who knows. I'm guessing that when the band's management forwarded the updated files to Spotify, someone sent the original mix remaster inadvertently instead of Brendan's new mix, hence my fear that this version will disappear once the error is realised.

I could be way off here, of course, but this certainly sounds very much like the original mix just with a lot more dynamics and detail.


This seems more plausible than this being the BoB mix, and him having decided to have a 'light touch' :P

Spenno - have you used your premium Spotify account to at least rip the 320k files to FLAC yet?


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ridleybradout wrote:
Birds in Hell wrote:
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McParadigm wrote:
I fully expect you all to be livid when you find out it's the Spotify mix.

how would spotify have a separate mix (I think you might be right, btw, since a few backspacer songs sounded a bit different)?

My presumption is that a remaster of the original S/T mix was prepared, along with Binaural and Riot Act, however at some stage a decision was made to instead have Brendan create an entirely new mix for the reissue. Maybe the band decided they didn't like the original mix after all, who knows. I'm guessing that when the band's management forwarded the updated files to Spotify, someone sent the original mix remaster inadvertently instead of Brendan's new mix, hence my fear that this version will disappear once the error is realised.

I could be way off here, of course, but this certainly sounds very much like the original mix just with a lot more dynamics and detail.


This seems more plausible than this being the BoB mix, and him having decided to have a 'light touch' :P

Spenno - have you used your premium Spotify account to at least rip the 320k files to FLAC yet?

No, I might see if I can figure something out later today (time permitting).


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