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 Post subject: Re: Song of the Moment: Not For You
PostPosted: Sat September 24, 2022 5:08 pm 
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This is probably the biggest song I haven't heard live yet. Been to seven shows since 2013, and it hasn't been played. It hasn't been played in New York since 2010 O_O

I got it before the album was even out

Dang

Whipping, too.

It’s not a huge accomplishment, really. Remember, they did NFY on SNL before the album was out as well.

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My last real hefty dose of acid was in college in 2003 (I like to walk away from the table up) at one point we stumbled back into my dorm.


I'll never be able to look at Larry David the same way after having read this post.


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emanon wrote:
super nintendo chalmers wrote:
My last real hefty dose of acid was in college in 2003 (I like to walk away from the table up) at one point we stumbled back into my dorm.


I'll never be able to look at Larry David the same way after having read this post.


It was the same month I started using this avatar too, maaan.

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I've been lousy on this song for too long.


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It’s hard to pick a favorite from Vitalogy but this song is definitely top-tier.


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Hot take: this is the PJ classic that works the worst with the modern version of the band.

They've taken the starkness out of the breakdown section and turned into a bit of a hokey jam -- for me, it's far more jarring than the Corduroy thing they do these days with the crowd. The eerie rawness isn't there anymore.


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Hot take: this is the PJ classic that works the worst with the modern version of the band.

They've taken the starkness out of the breakdown section and turned into a bit of a hokey jam -- for me, it's far more jarring than the Corduroy thing they do these days with the crowd. The eerie rawness isn't there anymore.

I'm open to this hot take.


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Jaeti wrote:
guitar_davey wrote:
Hot take: this is the PJ classic that works the worst with the modern version of the band.

They've taken the starkness out of the breakdown section and turned into a bit of a hokey jam -- for me, it's far more jarring than the Corduroy thing they do these days with the crowd. The eerie rawness isn't there anymore.

I'm open to this hot take.

Once is pretty bad though.


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Jaeti wrote:
guitar_davey wrote:
Hot take: this is the PJ classic that works the worst with the modern version of the band.

They've taken the starkness out of the breakdown section and turned into a bit of a hokey jam -- for me, it's far more jarring than the Corduroy thing they do these days with the crowd. The eerie rawness isn't there anymore.

I'm open to this hot take.

Once is pretty bad though.



Once has been bad for 20 years


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to be fair just about every pearl jam song about how you feel alone and it kind of sucks (which is most of the ten - vitalogy plus binaural and riot act) turned into a celebration of not feeling that way anymore starting in 2003 (or earlier)

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tommy wrote:
Leatherhead wrote:
Jaeti wrote:
guitar_davey wrote:
Hot take: this is the PJ classic that works the worst with the modern version of the band.

They've taken the starkness out of the breakdown section and turned into a bit of a hokey jam -- for me, it's far more jarring than the Corduroy thing they do these days with the crowd. The eerie rawness isn't there anymore.

I'm open to this hot take.

Once is pretty bad though.



Once has been bad for 20 years


What were the first live songs that went from good to bad?

Go and SOLAT have been bad for years, maybe decades. What songs were never good live?

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The only thing that's stopping me from giving it 5 stars is the fact that it is such a missed opportunity for not placing Jeff on the forefront of music here.
This song is screaming for a prominent, in your face bass riff over which the simplistic guitar riff could have been overlayed but held back a little. Because right now those three chords aren't something to brag about, if you can forgive my snobbishness.

I can practically hear that bass riff in my head each time this song plays only it's not there.

I don't know how else to explain what I'm hearing in my imagination but maybe through an example: you know that bass riff in The Prodigy's Breathe? That's what I'm missing in this song. It should have been built around a strong, moody, powerful bass riff where Jeff could go really creative and be the driving force behind the whole song. Right now he's kind of there, somewhere in the background providing a standard low frequency noise in a very timid way. Like I said, a missed opportunity. Otherwise -- a staple PJ anthem from the better part of their catalogue. 4.5 stars.

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This song rivals Corduroy for the title of “most Vitalogy” for me. The rawness, anger, defiance, sharp-edged sound. It defines the era IMHO.


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Also, possibly their most "grunge" song, whatever that means.


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this or Tremor Christ


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Tremor Christ is definitely all-timer… but I still say NFY and Corduroy best represent the era


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Corduroy is what I say when people ask me my favourite PJ song


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Hard to argue with Corduroy. Amazing track.


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PostPosted: Thu November 23, 2023 8:47 am 
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Matters wrote:
tommy wrote:
Leatherhead wrote:
Jaeti wrote:
guitar_davey wrote:
Hot take: this is the PJ classic that works the worst with the modern version of the band.

They've taken the starkness out of the breakdown section and turned into a bit of a hokey jam -- for me, it's far more jarring than the Corduroy thing they do these days with the crowd. The eerie rawness isn't there anymore.

I'm open to this hot take.

Once is pretty bad though.



Once has been bad for 20 years


What were the first live songs that went from good to bad?

Go and SOLAT have been bad for years, maybe decades. What songs were never good live?


I agree that SOLAT has been rough for quite some time, since around 2000 I'd say.

'Go' weirdly became tremendous as the 2006 tour went on, in Europe and Australia it absolutely killed. These days it has no power.


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