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I used to call them 'heavy songs' but PJ isn't heavy anymore (he's my brother).
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'Rock 'n Roll', as far as I know, should be restricted to the 50's and, I guess, some of the 60's.
This is... what?
this is harmless posting while drinking?
I was perfectly sober and stand by the comment.
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There is more kindness on the internet than we would care to admit to ourselves. Sometimes we are so afraid of falling victim to a ruse, we miss out on actual opportunities.
There is more kindness on the internet than we would care to admit to ourselves. Sometimes we are so afraid of falling victim to a ruse, we miss out on actual opportunities.
"Beyond simply a musical style, rock and roll, as seen in movies and on television, influenced lifestyles, fashion, attitudes, and language. It went on to spawn various sub-genres, often without the initially characteristic backbeat, that are now more commonly called simply "rock music" or "rock"."
There is more kindness on the internet than we would care to admit to ourselves. Sometimes we are so afraid of falling victim to a ruse, we miss out on actual opportunities.
The argument is akin to saying that what originated as 'Heavy Metal' is now just 'Metal'.
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harmless wrote:
"Beyond simply a musical style, rock and roll, as seen in movies and on television, influenced lifestyles, fashion, attitudes, and language. It went on to spawn various sub-genres, often without the initially characteristic backbeat, that are now more commonly called simply "rock music" or "rock"."
I don't see anything in that article that says the descriptor "rock and roll" should be restricted to the 50s and 60s. The term "rock and roll" became "rock" in the general lexicon, but it's just a variant. Plenty of people describe a lot of music that doesn't sound like Bill Haley and the Comets as "rock and roll", and they're not wrong. And if you want to go by Wikipedia's word, then http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ro ... oll_albums
"Beyond simply a musical style, rock and roll, as seen in movies and on television, influenced lifestyles, fashion, attitudes, and language. It went on to spawn various sub-genres, often without the initially characteristic backbeat, that are now more commonly called simply "rock music" or "rock"."
I don't see anything in that article that says the descriptor "rock and roll" should be restricted to the 50s and 60s. The term "rock and roll" became "rock" in the general lexicon, but it's just a variant. Plenty of people describe a lot of music that doesn't sound like Bill Haley and the Comets as "rock and roll", and they're not wrong. And if you want to go by Wikipedia's word, then http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ro ... oll_albums
"Beyond simply a musical style, rock and roll, as seen in movies and on television, influenced lifestyles, fashion, attitudes, and language. It went on to spawn various sub-genres, often without the initially characteristic backbeat, that are now more commonly called simply "rock music" or "rock"."
I don't see anything in that article that says the descriptor "rock and roll" should be restricted to the 50s and 60s. The term "rock and roll" became "rock" in the general lexicon, but it's just a variant. Plenty of people describe a lot of music that doesn't sound like Bill Haley and the Comets as "rock and roll", and they're not wrong. And if you want to go by Wikipedia's word, then http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ro ... oll_albums
The Wikipedia entry is quite clear that 'rock and roll' was the route of various styles of 'rock'. My opinion is that describing anything that is 'rock' as 'rock and roll' is really fucking annoying, not 'wrong'. It's colloquial, sure, but it's also inaccurate. I'm not saying that I always agree with Wikipedia, but my opinion isn't exactly way outside the boundaries of typical. People can call whatever they want whatever they want, though, I won't stop them.
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It would hardly be the first annoying argument on RM.
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Has it ever been discussed whether this song (perhaps specifically the noodling at the beginning) is a nod to Sonny Sharrock's free jazz supergroup of the same name? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Last_Ex ... _jazz_band)
Sharrock died in 1994, so perhaps there is some relevance (though I think the song goes back to 1993).
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