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 Post subject: Re: Pearl Jam - Definitive Live Versions (a Green Habit sequ
PostPosted: Thu May 10, 2018 2:25 am 
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ridleybradout wrote:
Finalising Riot Act right now, but we just discovered my copy of Council Bluff's Save You is MP3 sourced :evil:

Does anyone have a FLAC copy of this track handy that you could upload for us quickly?...


I have the original CD somewhere around here...

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Monkey_Driven wrote:
ridleybradout wrote:
Finalising Riot Act right now, but we just discovered my copy of Council Bluff's Save You is MP3 sourced :evil:

Does anyone have a FLAC copy of this track handy that you could upload for us quickly?...


I have the original CD somewhere around here...

Thanks mate but all good, I have it now :thumbsup:


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Here's Riot Act. This one drove me a bit nuts to be honest - they never really mastered many of the deep cuts from this album, and then they all but disappeared on future tours (or did in the case of Get Right). Thanks to everyone for the suggestions and comments along the way - I decided Arc should be included, but respect the view to delete it from this set for your own listening if you so wish :nice:

Avocado is next - shortlist coming soon.


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P E A R L J A M
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DEFINITIVE LIVE
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Compilation and artwork by ridleybradout
April 2018

FAN-MADE PROJECT - NOT FOR SALE

*Share freely but do not distribute as mp3*


It has been almost 13 years since the Green Habit Compilation was put together by the
Red Mosquito Forum community. As the band has now been together for double that length
of time, an update or sequel to this collection was well overdue. Hundreds of official
bootlegs later (including numerous 'vault' releases from the pre-bootleg era), every
song has been put up for review.

Red Mosquito forum users were invited to nominate and debate their favourite versions
of each song, for me to then go away and listen to each to make a final decision:
viewtopic.php?f=15&t=8556

There were a number of criteria for picking a definitive live version: sound quality,
correct lyrics, no guitar flubs, full band (if that is how the song was recorded in
the studio), electric rather than acoustic (again, if that is how the song was recorded),
and original era/drummer where possible (unless later versions had something really
special). Basically, if you had to represent the essence and power of each song through
one single live version - which would it be?

After a LOT of deliberation, this is what we came up with. Thank you to everyone for
your suggestions and for the discussion to date. This will be a constantly evolving
collection, so will be reviewed as new shows are played or released from the vault.
The best known source for each track has been used, and remastered by JWB only where
required to provide the smoothest possible listening experience.


Disc 8: 'Riot Act'

8-01 Can't Keep (Lexington 2003-04-21)
8-02 Save You (Council Bluffs 2003-06-13)
8-03 Love Boat Captain (Vancouver 2003-05-30)
8-04 Cropduster (Sydney 2003-02-14)
8-05 Ghost (Albany 2003-04-29)
8-06 I Am Mine (New York 2003-07-08)
8-07 Thumbing My Way (Vancouver 2003-05-30)
8-08 You Are (Uniondale 2003-04-30)
8-09 Get Right (Uniondale 2003-04-30)
8-10 Green Disease (Dallas 2003-06-09)
8-11 Help Help (Clarkston 2003-06-25)
8-12 Bu$hleaguer (Mexico City 2003-07-18)
8-13 Half Full (Paris 2006-09-11)
8-14 Arc (Washington DC 2008-08-16)
8-15 All Or None (Boston 2003-07-11)
8-16 Down (Boston 2006-06-24)
8-17 Undone (Newcastle 2006-11-19)
8-18 Other Side (Worcester 2013-10-16)
8-19 Last Soldier (Bridge School 2001-10-21)
8-20 Man Of The Hour (Milan 2006-09-17)





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 Post subject: Re: Pearl Jam - Definitive Live Versions (a Green Habit sequ
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Downloading now. Thanks!

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Beautiful work, thank you!

You definitely picked the right version of Man Of The Hour. I was there in Milano and it literally brought tears to my eyes. Eddie was intense that night.

Looking forward to Avocado - it's one of my favourite records and the band were so tight in 2006 so there are many great versions of these tracks!


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Self-titled shortlist below. Not as many suggestions have come in so far for this one, so I've included all the versions picked for Spenno's 'Black Market Avocado' and Lowlight79's 'World Wide Mix 2006' compilations (many of which overlapped).

Do people think 'Of The Earth' belongs on this disc, or on Backspacer's disc? It was recorded in both sessions, and debuted in concert on the Backspacer tour. The only other non-album tracks remaining that I can think of are Santa Cruz (will appear on Backspacer's disc) and Olé (Lightning Bolt session), so perhaps Of The Earth should go on Avocado's disc, giving each album one extra track each?

Life Wasted
- St Paul 2006-06-26
- San Francisco 2006-07-18

World Wide Suicide
- Vitoria 2006-09-02
- Washington DC 2006-07-22
- Prague 2006-09-22 (LOXL)

Comatose
- Melbourne 2006-11-16
- Sydney 2006-11-18
- Vienna 2006-09-25

Severed Hand
- Melbourne 2006-11-13
- Hartford 2006-05-13
- Zagreb 2006-09-26

Marker in the Sand
- Dublin 2006-08-23
- Brisbane 2006-11-10

Parachutes
- Vic Theatre 2007-08-02
- Torino 2006-09-19
- Portland 2006-07-20

Unemployable
- San Francsico 2006-07-15
- Torino 2006-09-19

Big Wave
- Perth 2009-11-14
- Madrid 2006-09-07

Gone
- Atlantic City 2005-10-01
- Sydney 2006-11-07
- Sydney 2006-11-18

Wasted Reprise
- Albany 2006-05-12
- Toronto 2006-05-10

Army Reserve
- Albany 2006-05-12
- Zagreb 2006-09-26

Come Back
- Philadelphia 2006-05-27
- Berlin 2010-06-30
- Santa Barbara 2006-07-13

Inside Job
- Las Vegas 2006-07-06
- Melbourne 2006-11-13

Of The Earth
- Third Man Records 2016-06-09
- Dublin 2010-06-22
- Pemberton 2016-07-17
- London 2010-06-25


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I agree with Vegas for Inside Job. Dublin '06 is also strong.

Zagreb for Severed Hand is a definite. Hands down the strongest version they've done.

Lisbon II for Army Reserve is hard to beat, in my opinion.


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Off the top of my head, Vegas Inside Job is the one.

Of the Earth makes sense on this comp.


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Looking forward to this one too. Avocado has slowly but steadily climbed in my album rankings since it was released.

Thanks again Brad and wct. Deadset Legends.

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Isn't the sound quality of Of The Earth from Third Man, well, substandard compared to other official releases? Wouldn't that sound disjoint on the disc.

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CopperTom wrote:
Isn't the sound quality of Of The Earth from Third Man, well, substandard compared to other official releases? Wouldn't that sound disjoint on the disc.

It is, but sounding a bit disjointed isn’t a huge concern for this project as it is more of an ‘anthology’ of performances that can be listened to in any order/configuration (like say PJ20 soundtrack), rather than a compilation/concert experience (like Live On Two/Three/Ten Legs).

If it turns out to be the best version, we’ll use it as long as the audio quality is at a decent standard (I have a couple of better rips of Third Man now than what was initially circulating :thumbsup: )


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ridleybradout wrote:
Here's Riot Act. This one drove me a bit nuts to be honest - they never really mastered many of the deep cuts from this album, and then they all but disappeared on future tours (or did in the case of Get Right). Thanks to everyone for the suggestions and comments along the way - I decided Arc should be included, but respect the view to delete it from this set for your own listening if you so wish :nice:

Avocado is next - shortlist coming soon.



Thanks for your great work on this - I think this is my favourite of these mixes yet! It makes me remember how much I enjoyed this album when it came out.


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OTE from London was not so good. It’s the blander version of the track vs Pemberton or Dublin.

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My votes:

Life Wasted - San Fran
WWS - Vittoria
Severed Hand - Zagreb
Come Back - Philly
Of the Earth - Dublin


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The band was really tight on 2006 tour, so there are many great performances of these songs as you guys already mentioned.

Below are some suggestions and votes just trying to help:

- Life Wasted: St Paul 2006-06-26 (already mentioned)
- Worldwide Suicide: Melbourne 2006-11-16
- Comatose: Detroit 2006-05-22 (singing the bridg on megaphone)
- Marker in the Sand: Grand Rapids 2006-05-19
- Parachutes: Brisbane 2006-11-10
- Big Wave: Los Angeles 2006-06-10 (nice ending jam)
- Army Reserve: Camdem 2006-05-28
- Come Back: Santa Barbara 2006-07-13 (already mentioned)
- Inside Job: Las Vegas 2006-07-06 (already mentioned)


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I just want to say that the Binaural disc is fantastic.

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BootsToAsses wrote:
I agree with Vegas for Inside Job. Dublin '06 is also strong.

Zagreb for Severed Hand is a definite. Hands down the strongest version they've done.

Lisbon II for Army Reserve is hard to beat, in my opinion.

I think Vegas is a lock for Inside Job.

Zagreb SH is great, but I think I want to use one with a guitar intro, rather than the album loop. Melbourne has this and is as good IMO, and I think has a better Mike's solo at the end.

Lisbon II is good too, but I want to use a version where Ed doesn't talk over the intro.


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Johnny Turner wrote:
- Comatose: Detroit 2006-05-22 (singing the bridg on megaphone)

Love this version - thanks for the tip :nice:


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I've settled on versions for all album tracks now - which just leaves 'Of The Earth'.

I've going back and forth between Pemberton 2016 and Dublin 2010. Correct lyrics are obviously less of an issue for this one (I'm not sure Ed even knows what they are yet) but Dublin seems to have more variety in the verses. Musically Pemberton sounds very focused and tight, but Dublin has more swagger and is pretty darn tight for a debut.

Thoughts?...

Edit: Just listened to Third Man version again and even more confused - it really is a great version, and the sounds quality isn't as bad as I first thought...


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ridleybradout wrote:
I've settled on versions for all album tracks now - which just leaves 'Of The Earth'.

I've going back and forth between Pemberton 2016 and Dublin 2010. Correct lyrics are obviously less of an issue for this one (I'm not sure Ed even knows what they are yet) but Dublin seems to have more variety in the verses. Musically Pemberton sounds very focused and tight, but Dublin has more swagger and is pretty darn tight for a debut.

Thoughts?...

Edit: Just listened to Third Man version again and even more confused - it really is a great version, and the sounds quality isn't as bad as I first thought...



I’m a big fan of the TMR version. The back and forth between Jack and Mike is really great.

Does anyone know how good the quality of the rip is? And which one is the best?


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