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E.H. Ruddock wrote:

That's nice and all, but I'm not in it for the intro. That Vegas version is hot fire

True, just re-listened to Vegas and hard to argue.

Dissident - Washington DC 1998-09-19 - a good version of a meh song

As much as I love the VMA version of Animal, I like what Jack did with the song. Red Rock '95 is a pretty solid version:

doone wrote:

Dissident - Washington DC 1998-09-19 - a good version of a meh song

I agree, about Dissident, I've never been crazy about it. The Inglewood one from the 98 vault show is good though, also, San Francisco 2006.

rimb wrote:

E.H. Ruddock wrote:

That's nice and all, but I'm not in it for the intro. That Vegas version is hot fire

True, just re-listened to Vegas and hard to argue.

I'll argue.

Atlanta is a gut-wrenching throat-ripper, just the way I like my Go.

But the Vegas Animal gets my vote.

you are seeking to identify the definitive live version of 'Daughter' and non-Dave Abbruzzese versions are being considered

SomeNumbersUP makes a good point - maybe Vegas, Atlanta and Orpheum versions should be in contention?

The Vegas Animal is spoilt by Ed yelling ‘be careful!’ in the middle of the last chorus. There actually aren’t many soundboard Dave A versions of Animal - may have to go with Atlanta...

Daughter conundrum:

Cleveland 2006-05-20 (It's Okay tag)
- Not up to scratch

Lisbon 2006-09-05 (It's Okay tag)
- Unlike many 2006 versions this is nice and slow. Great crowd participation. The It's Okay tag is very good and concludes with an awesome Mike solo.

Milan 2000-06-22 (no tag, awesome call and response)
- Excellent main song, some great drum work, and the call and response is an all time classic (the birth of the ay-oh-ay chant?)

Jones Beach 2000-08-24 (It's Okay tag)
- Main song is serviceable, I know this version of the tag is well loved around here but some of the weird lyric changes have always bothered me ("Hope in an alleyway" WTF?)

Rotterdam 1993-07-16 (WMA tag)
- Not bad, though end of song is cut off. Not sure if we should use a WMA tag.

Washington DC 1998-09-19 (LO2L - RITFW/WMA tags)
- If we do use a WMA tag I think this is the one :nice:

Speaking of which - did anyone ever transfer the mix of the VMA performance (just "Animal") from the "Go" cassette? I've been meaning to transfer it myself.

Author:	h2sublime [ Thu February 08, 2018 7:40 am ]
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Go Rotterdam 1993-07-16 is insanely awesome as well. Hell I have listened to this as much as the studio version.

Author:	LetMeSleep [ Thu February 08, 2018 7:51 am ]
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Rats has to be Orpheum 1994-04-12 with Dave A. Matt can't do the skip.

Author:	doone [ Thu February 08, 2018 1:30 pm ]
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rimb wrote: E.H. Ruddock wrote: That's nice and all, but I'm not in it for the intro. That Vegas version is hot fire True, just re-listened to Vegas and hard to argue. I'll argue. Atlanta is a gut-wrenching throat-ripper, just the way I like my Go. But the Vegas Animal gets my vote.

Author:	doone [ Thu February 08, 2018 1:56 pm ]
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For Daughter, Jones Beach 2000-08-24 (It's Okay tag) is my first choice followed by Washington DC 1998-09-19 (LO2L - RITFW/WMA tags). Dissident - Washington DC 1998-09-19 - a good version of a meh song Definitely Glorified G from Atlanta 94

Author:	MattA75 [ Thu February 08, 2018 3:29 pm ]
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I'll throw my vote to Toronto for Dissident, though the Vegas 93 version (not listed above) is pretty great too

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Author:	darth_vedder [ Thu February 08, 2018 3:56 pm ]
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As much as I love the VMA version of Animal, I like what Jack did with the song. Red Rock '95 is a pretty solid version:

Author:	doone [ Thu February 08, 2018 5:02 pm ]
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darth_vedder wrote: As much as I love the VMA version of Animal, I like what Jack did with the song. Red Rock '95 is a pretty solid version: Unless there's a soundboard, I don't think it's up for consideration. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Author:	doone [ Thu February 08, 2018 5:06 pm ]
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darth_vedder wrote: doone wrote: Dissident - Washington DC 1998-09-19 - a good version of a meh song I agree, about Dissident, I've never been crazy about it. The Inglewood one from the 98 vault show is good though, also, San Francisco 2006. Ooo, Inglewood 98 is good! change my vote!

Author:	ridleybradout [ Fri February 09, 2018 7:55 pm ]
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doone wrote: rimb wrote: E.H. Ruddock wrote: That's nice and all, but I'm not in it for the intro. That Vegas version is hot fire True, just re-listened to Vegas and hard to argue. I'll argue. Atlanta is a gut-wrenching throat-ripper, just the way I like my Go. But the Vegas Animal gets my vote. Go is going to be a tight battle between these two. The Vegas Animal is spoilt by Ed yelling ‘be careful!’ in the middle of the last chorus. There actually aren’t many soundboard Dave A versions of Animal - may have to go with Atlanta...

Author:	E.H. Ruddock [ Fri February 09, 2018 8:44 pm ]
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I'll concede to doone and she can give me one later

Author:	ridleybradout [ Sat February 10, 2018 1:06 am ]
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Daughter conundrum: Cleveland 2006-05-20 (It's Okay tag) - Not up to scratch Lisbon 2006-09-05 (It's Okay tag) - Unlike many 2006 versions this is nice and slow. Great crowd participation. The It's Okay tag is very good and concludes with an awesome Mike solo. Milan 2000-06-22 (no tag, awesome call and response) - Excellent main song, some great drum work, and the call and response is an all time classic (the birth of the ay-oh-ay chant?) Jones Beach 2000-08-24 (It's Okay tag) - Main song is serviceable, I know this version of the tag is well loved around here but some of the weird lyric changes have always bothered me ("Hope in an alleyway" WTF?) Rotterdam 1993-07-16 (WMA tag) - Not bad, though end of song is cut off. Not sure if we should use a WMA tag. Washington DC 1998-09-19 (LO2L - RITFW/WMA tags) - If we do use a WMA tag I think this is the one

Author:	doone [ Sat February 10, 2018 3:22 am ]
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I stand by my Daughter choices, Jones beach or Washington DC.

Author:	96583UP [ Sat February 10, 2018 3:40 am ]
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you are seeking to identify the definitive live version of 'Daughter' and non-Dave Abbruzzese versions are being considered

Author:	swan [ Sat February 10, 2018 5:40 am ]
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“Hope in an alleyway” an all-time classic EV flub save. dude is the master

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Author:	UglyRedHonda [ Sat February 10, 2018 6:09 am ]
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ridleybradout wrote: SomeNumbersUP makes a good point - maybe Vegas, Atlanta and Orpheum versions should be in contention? I would definitely slide Atlanta into contention, even if Atlanta is appearing so often in this album set. That take got enough radio airplay in '94, it could almost be considered the released single for the song. (As short as it is, I still love that "Wall" singalong.) ridleybradout wrote: The Vegas Animal is spoilt by Ed yelling ‘be careful!’ in the middle of the last chorus. There actually aren’t many soundboard Dave A versions of Animal - may have to go with Atlanta... I love the VMA performance, if only Ed weren't so hammered. Speaking of which - did anyone ever transfer the mix of the VMA performance (just "Animal") from the "Go" cassette? I've been meaning to transfer it myself.

Author:	lecherouslittlestump [ Sat February 10, 2018 4:34 pm ]
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I adore the studio version of Sleight Of Hand but I've never really heard a live version that's heavy/intense enough. Anyone got any recommendations? That chorus needs to sound massive.

Author:	Norris [ Sat February 10, 2018 5:45 pm ]
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ridleybradout wrote: Daughter conundrum: Cleveland 2006-05-20 (It's Okay tag) - Not up to scratch Lisbon 2006-09-05 (It's Okay tag) - Unlike many 2006 versions this is nice and slow. Great crowd participation. The It's Okay tag is very good and concludes with an awesome Mike solo. Milan 2000-06-22 (no tag, awesome call and response) - Excellent main song, some great drum work, and the call and response is an all time classic (the birth of the ay-oh-ay chant?) Jones Beach 2000-08-24 (It's Okay tag) - Main song is serviceable, I know this version of the tag is well loved around here but some of the weird lyric changes have always bothered me ("Hope in an alleyway" WTF?) Rotterdam 1993-07-16 (WMA tag) - Not bad, though end of song is cut off. Not sure if we should use a WMA tag. Washington DC 1998-09-19 (LO2L - RITFW/WMA tags) - If we do use a WMA tag I think this is the one Milan is the right choice and you know it.

Author:	Wendy Carlos's Twin [ Sat February 10, 2018 6:10 pm ]
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UglyRedHonda wrote: Speaking of which - did anyone ever transfer the mix of the VMA performance (just "Animal") from the "Go" cassette? I've been meaning to transfer it myself. I did. It's on the b-sides comp. It's a much better mix without the engineer flub at the beginning, but there has been a layer of fake crowd noise added to it. The cassette also wobbles like a motherfucker.