Pearl Jam - Definitive Live Versions (a Green Habit sequel)

[Norris]

Heard a bit of Los Angeles 10/24/00 on sirius tonight. Pretty solid Romanza/Betterman/SITL there.

[Coach]

This thread is getting a bit messy. Maybe we should break it off into album threads to minimize confusion.

That's the plan - get those spreadsheets to me people!

From what I remember back in 2004, the Green Habit comp was made available for us less technologically inclined via traditional download vs. the torrents. My request is that we make this available like your other comps, Ridley, which are super easy to access and, I think, you always make them available in apple itunes form, too, which is great for us iphone users. I would happily donate to the cause to help, too. Thanks again for doing this.

[Ledbetterman10]

Ridley, your efforts are always appreciated.

I'm late to this thread and haven't read through it all, so some of these may have been mentioned, but here's some of my favorites if ya wanna check them out:

Grievance: 9/1/00, Camden
Parting Ways 10/18/00, Lubbock
NAIS: 10/22/01, Seattle (PJ20 Soundtrack)
DTE: 7/13/98, Los Angeles (Live on Two Legs)
Alive: 7/22/98, Seattle (Eddie's voice is a little shot here but Mike' solo is off the hook)
Go: 11/30/93, Las Vegas
Animal: 3/5/98, Melbourne
Porch: 3/5/98, Melbourne
Why Go: 8/5/07, Lollapalooza
Black: 5/3/03, State College
Even Flow: 5/2/03, Buffalo
Not For You: 2/26/95, Manila (PJ20 Soundtrack)
Rats: 4/12/94, Boston

Look forward to this, Ridley. I'm sure it'll kick ass like all the compilations you make.

[stip]

the world wide suicide from lolla 07 is phenomonal, despite some lyric issues

[ridleybradout]

I think 2018 might be the year to get this project done - what do you say folks?

Perhaps going through each album (+ b-sides) and discussing our options is the way to do it?

Here's the shortlist for versions suggested so far for 'Ten'. Apologies if I missed any and feel free to add more or champion any already on the list.

Also, the spreadsheet posted on page 1 is still available for anyone who wants to bulk submit suggestions (many thanks to those you did this already - makes this job a lot easier )

Let the mass-debate begin!


Once
- Zurich 1992-06-18
- Hollywood 1991-10-06

Even Flow
- Boston 1994-04-12
- Uniondale 2003-04-30
- Melbourne 1995-03-17
- Buffalo 2003-05-02

Alive
- Pinkpop 1992-06-08
- Seattle 2000-11-06
- Seattle 1991-08-03 (Alive video version)
- Drop in the Park 1992-09-20
- Seattle 1998-07-22

Why Go
- Pinkpop 1992-06-08
- Melbourne 1995-03-17

Black
- Atlanta 1994-04-03
- Pistoia 2006-09-20
- Lubbock 2000-10-18
- Chicago 2000-10-09
- Sendai 2003-02-28
- Marseille 2006-09-09
- Ottawa 2005-09-16
- State College 2003-05-03

Jeremy
- MTV VMAs 1992-09-07
- Zurich 1992-06-18

Oceans
- Boston 1994-04-12
- Maryland Heights 1998-07-08
- MTV Unplugged 1992-03-16
- Houston 2000-10-15

Porch
- Atlanta 1994-04-03
- Argentina 2005-11-26
- Salt Lake City 1995-11-01
- Melbourne 1998-03-05

Garden
- Atlanta 1994-04-03

Deep
- Las Vegas 1993-11-30
- Pinkpop 1992-06-08
- Rotterdam 1993-07-16

Release
- Chicago 2003-06-18
- Bonner Springs 2003-06-12
- San Francisco 2006-07-18
- Boston 1994-04-12

Wash
- Mexico 2003-07-19
- Amsterdam 1992-02-12
- Finsbury Park 1992-06-06

Alone
- Zagreb 2006-09-26
- Universal City 2009-10-07

Brother
- Berlin 2009-08-15
- Melbourne 2009-11-20

Breath
- Pistoia 2006-09-20

State of Love and Trust
- Atlanta 1994-04-03
- Melbourne 1998-03-05
- Milan 2006-09-17
- Seattle 1992-01-17

Hold On
- Auckland 2009-11-27

Just A Girl
- Seattle 1990-10-22 (only version)

Footsteps
- Houston 2000-10-15
- Memphis 2000-08-15
- Buffalo 1996-10-01
- Gorge 2006-07-22
- Salt Lake City 1995-11-01
- Zurich 1992-06-18
- Bridge School 1999-10-30

Dirty Frank
- Boston 1994-04-12
- Gorge 2006-06-22

Let Me Sleep
- Wrigley 2016-08-20
- Seattle 2013-12-06

Angel
- Bridge School 1992-11-01

Bee Girl
- Denver 2006-07-02

Yellow Ledbetter
- Mesa 1993-11-06
- Gorge 2006-07-23
- Oslo 2014-06-29

[doone]

Someone needs to give ridleybradout polling privileges to make this easier.

[Wendy Carlos's Twin]

I've never been a fan of the "such and such album LIVE!" approach. I prefer the idea of maybe doing a 3-CD set that covers the 3 drummers. Or maybe just a general (or somewhat chronological) mix of live highlights. I dunno.

[lowlight79]

I've never been a fan of the "such and such album LIVE!" approach. I prefer the idea of maybe doing a 3-CD set that covers the 3 drummers. Or maybe just a general (or somewhat chronological) mix of live highlights. I dunno.

WCT, now that would be really cool.

[Norris]

I prefer the idea of maybe doing a 3-CD set that covers the 3 drummers.

I like this.

[ridleybradout]

I've never been a fan of the "such and such album LIVE!" approach. I prefer the idea of maybe doing a 3-CD set that covers the 3 drummers. Or maybe just a general (or somewhat chronological) mix of live highlights. I dunno.

WCT and I have talked about this idea - I'm still very keen on it, but it is very much a separate thing.

This 'Definitive Live' isn't an 'X album LIVE!' set as such, it's more a comprehensive encyclopedia of definitive versions, simply organised by album.

Tracks would not be cross-faded together like a typical live compilation, they would be faded in and out as stand-alone songs, allowing them to be rearranged into whatever playlist the listener desires (by year for example).

[Wendy Carlos's Twin]

I've never been a fan of the "such and such album LIVE!" approach. I prefer the idea of maybe doing a 3-CD set that covers the 3 drummers. Or maybe just a general (or somewhat chronological) mix of live highlights. I dunno.

WCT and I have talked about this idea - I'm still very keen on it, but it is very much a separate thing.

This 'Definitive Live' isn't an 'X album LIVE!' set as such, it's more a comprehensive encyclopedia of definitive versions, simply organised by album.

Tracks would not be cross-faded together like a typical live compilation, they would be faded in and out as stand-alone songs, allowing them to be rearranged into whatever playlist the listener desires (by year for example).

That's fine. I could definitely pinpoint a few obscure tracks, but I'm no good when it comes to songs like Black. Maybe I could help whittle it down later.

[jrut81]

100% Flawless: Immortality Berlin 1996

[stip]

I think the Black and Porch unpluggeds should be considered.

Jeremy from Uniondale 03

[Kevin Davis]

Nothing from "Unplugged," please.

My vote for "Black" is Lubbock 2000, and my "Porch" is SLC '95.

[Kevin Davis]

I also vote for the RCKNDY version of "Alive." Show the other Matt C. a little love.

[Anders]

I used to listen to the Green Habit collection. It was really good.

[UglyRedHonda]

I also vote for the RCKNDY version of "Alive." Show the other Matt C. a little love.

This is probably my favorite live take of "Alive", and I would vote for it, but I have to ask:

Does it still count as "live" for something like this, since it was clearly "adjusted" somewhat in the studio? (At the very least, some of Ed's vocals were re-recorded - if you listen carefully, you can sometimes hear the "live" vocal in the background, where it was caught either from the PA or the monitors.)

[E.H. Ruddock]

Definitely not unplugged for Porch. Either Zurich or Hawaii '92

[Norris]

no unplugged anything

[tyweed]

Oh man, this sounds like legitimately fun homework. Is there a deadline on submissions?