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 Post subject: Re: Pearl Jam - Definitive Live Versions (a Green Habit sequ
PostPosted: Thu February 22, 2018 1:28 pm 
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I'd like to bring Not for you from Columbia, MD (Sept 4, 2000) into the discussion. It's the US equivalent to the Milan 2000 version.


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My two cents...

For "Last Exit", Berlin 1996, or Detroit 2000.

For "Not For You", the version on disc 2 from the PJ20 blu ray is pretty awesome (Jack!).

For "Immortality", one of the best versions I've heard was from Katowice, 6/15/2000. The jam at the end if really good.

For "Tremor Christ", I'm loving Tampa 2000. There is a little more wha-wha effect to the guitars than usual (Stone?) and the line "even the east coast can get big big waves" is a nice touch.

For "Whipping", St. Louis 2000, and Saratoga 2000 aren't too shabby.

For "Betterman", I'm partial to no tag. The LO2L version is about as good as it gets. For more of a boot feel, I like Verona, Italy 6/20/2000, and Detroit 2000.

For "Corduroy", I'm partial to Inglewood, CA 1998 (vault series) or Charlotte, NC 2000, or Boise, ID 2000. The "highhat intro" Matt does on the 2003 tour is pretty interesting as well. For the sped up jack hammer intro, San Francisco 2006 is pretty good.


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Corduroy really needs to be from 2000 or earlier.


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Disorganized but what about Long Road from the Mansfield present on 7-11-03?


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Great version, but he's not looking for acoustic performances.


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cutuphalfdead wrote:
Great version, but he's not looking for acoustic performances.


It loses something when played acoustically.


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 Post subject: Re: Pearl Jam - Definitive Live Versions (a Green Habit sequ
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that 9/4/00 Corduroy has always been a favorite


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Here's my picks:

Last Exit - Boise 2000-11-03

Spin the Black Circle
- Saratoga 2000-08-27
or Melbourne 95

Not For You
- Washington DC 1995-01-14

Tremor Christ
- Melbourne 1995-03-17

Nothingman - tough choice, I'd be happy with either of these
- Seattle 2000-11-06
- State College 2003-05-03


Whipping
- Atlanta 1994-04-03
or
- Saratoga 2000-08-27

Corduroy
- Chicago 1998-06-29 (LO2L)

Bugs
- Philadelphia 2009-10-31

Satan’s Bed
- Atlanta 1994-04-03

Better Man
2000-06-29 Olso Norway (for a no tag version)
or for tag
- Seattle 2000-11-06 (incl improv outro)

Immortality
- Berlin 1996-11-03
with second choice being Katowice 2000-06-16

I Got ID
- Melbourne 1998-03-05

Long Road
- Washington DC 1998-09-19

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 Post subject: Re: Pearl Jam - Definitive Live Versions (a Green Habit sequ
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darth_vedder wrote:
My two cents...

For "Last Exit", Berlin 1996, or Detroit 2000.

For "Not For You", the version on disc 2 from the PJ20 blu ray is pretty awesome (Jack!).

For "Immortality", one of the best versions I've heard was from Katowice, 6/15/2000. The jam at the end if really good.

For "Tremor Christ", I'm loving Tampa 2000. There is a little more wha-wha effect to the guitars than usual (Stone?) and the line "even the east coast can get big big waves" is a nice touch.

For "Whipping", St. Louis 2000, and Saratoga 2000 aren't too shabby.

For "Betterman", I'm partial to no tag. The LO2L version is about as good as it gets. For more of a boot feel, I like Verona, Italy 6/20/2000, and Detroit 2000.

For "Corduroy", I'm partial to Inglewood, CA 1998 (vault series) or Charlotte, NC 2000, or Boise, ID 2000. The "highhat intro" Matt does on the 2003 tour is pretty interesting as well. For the sped up jack hammer intro, San Francisco 2006 is pretty good.


The Boise version of Corduroy is completely out of hand. Stone and Mike do some great trippy stuff in the breakdown before the solo at which point Mike fires off a series of sick delayed-out notes at the beginning that always gives me the Memorex Man treatment.


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 Post subject: Re: Pearl Jam - Definitive Live Versions (a Green Habit sequ
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Last Exit
- Washington DC 1995-01-14
- Berlin 1996-11-03
- Seattle 1998-07-22
- Boise 2000-11-03
- Irvine 2003-06-02
- Calgary 2005-09-04

Spin the Black Circle
- Saratoga 2000-08-27

Not For You
- Washington DC 1995-01-14
- Soldier Field 1995-07-11
- Milan 2000-06-22

Tremor Christ
- Melbourne 1995-03-17
- Detroit 2000-10-07
- Torino 2006-09-19

Nothingman
- Manchester 2000-06-04
- Seattle 2000-11-06
- State College 2003-05-03
- Holmdel 2003-07-14
- Prague 2006-09-22

Whipping
- Atlanta 1994-04-03
- Saratoga 2000-08-27
- St Louis 2000-10-11

Corduroy
- Washington DC 1995-01-14
- Chicago 1998-06-29 (LO2L)
- Indianapolis 2000-08-18 (incl slow IO)
- Washington DC 2000-09-04 (Touring Band DVD)
- New York 2003-07-09

Bugs
- Philadelphia 2009-10-31

Satan’s Bed
- Atlanta 1994-04-03

Better Man
- Indianapolis 2000-08-18 (incl Romanza & SIFL)
- Kansas City 2000-10-12 (incl Romanza & SIFL+verse)
- Boise 2000-11-03 (incl Romanza & improv outro)
- Seattle 2000-11-06 (incl improv outro)

Immortality
- Berlin 1996-11-03
- Toronto 2000-10-05
- Nagoya 2003-03-06
- Benaroya Hall 2003-10-22
- Adelaide 2006-11-21

I Got ID
- Soldier Field 1995-07-11
- Melbourne 1998-03-05

Long Road
- Berlin 1996-11-03
- Washington DC 1998-09-19

*Act of Love (incl here or on covers disc?)
- Washington DC 1998-09-19

*Throw Your Hatred Down (incl here or on covers disc?)
- Adelaide 2006-11-22


Instead of choosing a version of each song, I'm just going to submit a bunch of versions of Immortality. And I agree with you Ridley, Toronto 2000 and Adelaide 2006 are pure fire.

Immortality
1995/07/11 Chicago
1995/11/06 San Diego
1998/07/02 St. Louis
1998/09/19 Washington DC
2000/06/16 Katowice
2000/06/20 Verona
2000/08/25 Jones Beach
2000/10/05 Toronto
2000/10/25 San Diego
2000/10/30 Sacramento
2000/11/06 Seattle
2003/04/21 Lexington
2003/06/12 Bonner Springs
2005/10/01 Atlantic City
2006/11/21 Adelaide
2013/10/25 Hartford
2013/11/16 Oklahoma City
2016/05/08 Ottawa


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 Post subject: Re: Pearl Jam - Definitive Live Versions (a Green Habit sequ
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Forgive me for not listening to all of those tyweed :shock:

This doesn’t get any easier - trying to decide on Last Exit at the moment.

DC 1995 is awesome and as good as it gets with Jack behind the kit, but Matt is giving him a run for his money with Boise 2000. It starts off relatively pedestrian but the second half is shit-hot fire. Downside is Ed finishes every chorus with ‘won’t ever find me here’ which I guess could be considered an intentional lyric change for that tour? There is also Zagreb 2006-09-26 which is rapid but tight as, with decent vocals and the correct ‘shed my skin at last’ lyric...


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I listened to DC 95 Last Exit with Jack yesterday and it WAS awesome!!! I can't remember if I voted for that one or not, but it is quality.


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ridleybradout wrote:
Forgive me for not listening to all of those tyweed :shock:

This doesn’t get any easier - trying to decide on Last Exit at the moment.

DC 1995 is awesome and as good as it gets with Jack behind the kit, but Matt is giving him a run for his money with Boise 2000. It starts off relatively pedestrian but the second half is shit-hot fire. Downside is Ed finishes every chorus with ‘won’t ever find me here’ which I guess could be considered an intentional lyric change for that tour? There is also Zagreb 2006-09-26 which is rapid but tight as, with decent vocals and the correct ‘shed my skin at last’ lyric...


Just checked out DC and Boise. I'm voting for DC. The minute Jack starts, the whole thing takes off and just fires through. It's been years (decades?) since I've listened to that show. Listening to the whole thing now based off the strength of that "Last Exit" performance.


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I'd be happy with either , if it's too hard to choose, flip a coin

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ridleybradout wrote:
Forgive me for not listening to all of those tyweed :shock:

This doesn’t get any easier - trying to decide on Last Exit at the moment.

DC 1995 is awesome and as good as it gets with Jack behind the kit, but Matt is giving him a run for his money with Boise 2000. It starts off relatively pedestrian but the second half is shit-hot fire. Downside is Ed finishes every chorus with ‘won’t ever find me here’ which I guess could be considered an intentional lyric change for that tour? There is also Zagreb 2006-09-26 which is rapid but tight as, with decent vocals and the correct ‘shed my skin at last’ lyric...


Ha! Yeah, no expectation at all that you would. Ridiculously long list. Just felt good to get it out there.

As far as Last Exit goes, I feel like Matt has never ever done this song justice. There's something about his style and the sound of his snare that undercuts the attack of the drums. The snap and life just isn't there. I love MC, but for me, this song more than any other, has really suffered since he joined the band.

Dave's intro is so vital to the song, and Jack managed to bring an his own approach and sound while not dampening the spirit of the track. 1995 DC all the way!


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tyweed wrote:
1995 DC all the way!



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11-1-95 is a bit of an overlooked Corduroy, might be worth considering

5-2-03 has a pretty good STBC as well (then again, everything from that show just about is :bammer:


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tyweed wrote:
1995 DC all the way!



:thumbsup:

After multiple listens back and forth I'm in agreement with this.

Now for Not For You.

I originally wanted to use Soldier Field, but there is a minor lyric error ("and you dare say this is not for you"). Manila 95 also has a small mistake ("never was for you" repeated twice in the final chorus). DC 95 is pretty good also and correct lyrically, but I think the solo is better on Soldier Field. Not sure this should be a Matt version either, but Milan 2000 is really good.

Thoughts?


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ridleybradout wrote:
rimb wrote:
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1995 DC all the way!



:thumbsup:

After multiple listens back and forth I'm in agreement with this.

Now for Not For You.

I originally wanted to use Soldier Field, but there is a minor lyric error ("and you dare say this is not for you"). Manila 95 also has a small mistake ("never was for you" repeated twice in the final chorus). DC 95 is pretty good also and correct lyrically, but I think the solo is better on Soldier Field. Not sure this should be a Matt version either, but Milan 2000 is really good.

Thoughts?

SNL rehearsal?


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