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 Post subject: Re: Pearl Jam - Definitive Live Versions (a Green Habit sequ
PostPosted: Wed February 21, 2018 7:53 pm 
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Not a criticism at all but I'm wondering how the short-list of:

Yellow Ledbetter
- Mesa 1993-11-06
- Gorge 2006-07-23
- Oslo 2014-06-29

Ended up turning into:

- Hamburg 2000-06-26 :?:

YL must've been a tough one as it varies so much with Ed and Mike both winging it each time, just interested as to why Hamburg got the nod.

I wasn't happy with any on the shortlist so started listening to other versions from each year and decided it sounded best on the 2000 tour.

I could have ended up using any number of versions from that year, but the Hamburg one had relatively standardised lyrics, a great vibe, no flubs, and a nice outro. It was the version chosen for the Touring Band 2000 DVD extras, and this is a rare example of them choosing well (it was also remixed for the DVD so this is a rare chance to hear Jeff on the European tour :thumbsup:)


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Saratoga 2000 had Nobody’s Fault But Mine attached to the end of Yellow Ledbetter and I always enjoyed that.


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ridleybradout wrote:
thespaniard wrote:
Not a criticism at all but I'm wondering how the short-list of:

Yellow Ledbetter
- Mesa 1993-11-06
- Gorge 2006-07-23
- Oslo 2014-06-29

Ended up turning into:

- Hamburg 2000-06-26 :?:

YL must've been a tough one as it varies so much with Ed and Mike both winging it each time, just interested as to why Hamburg got the nod.

I wasn't happy with any on the shortlist so started listening to other versions from each year and decided it sounded best on the 2000 tour.

I could have ended up using any number of versions from that year, but the Hamburg one had relatively standardised lyrics, a great vibe, no flubs, and a nice outro. It was the version chosen for the Touring Band 2000 DVD extras, and this is a rare example of them choosing well (it was also remixed for the DVD so this is a rare chance to hear Jeff on the European tour :thumbsup:)


Cool - thanks for the insight :thumbsup:


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Really enjoying the choices so far, thanks for all the work on this Brad


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 Post subject: Re: Pearl Jam - Definitive Live Versions (a Green Habit sequ
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Last Exit
- Washington DC 1995-01-14
- Berlin 1996-11-03
- Seattle 1998-07-22
- Boise 2000-11-03
- Irvine 2003-06-02
- Calgary 2005-09-04

Spin the Black Circle
- Saratoga 2000-08-27

Not For You
- Washington DC 1995-01-14
- Soldier Field 1995-07-11
- Milan 2000-06-22

Tremor Christ
- Melbourne 1995-03-17
- Detroit 2000-10-07
- Torino 2006-09-19

Nothingman
- Manchester 2000-06-04
- Seattle 2000-11-06
- State College 2003-05-03
- Holmdel 2003-07-14
- Prague 2006-09-22

Whipping
- Atlanta 1994-04-03
- Saratoga 2000-08-27
- St Louis 2000-10-11

Corduroy
- Washington DC 1995-01-14
- Chicago 1998-06-29 (LO2L)
- Indianapolis 2000-08-18 (incl slow IO)
- Washington DC 2000-09-04 (Touring Band DVD)
- New York 2003-07-09

Bugs
- Philadelphia 2009-10-31

Satan’s Bed
- Atlanta 1994-04-03

Better Man
- Indianapolis 2000-08-18 (incl Romanza & SIFL)
- Kansas City 2000-10-12 (incl Romanza & SIFL+verse)
- Boise 2000-11-03 (incl Romanza & improv outro)
- Seattle 2000-11-06 (incl improv outro)

Immortality
- Berlin 1996-11-03
- Toronto 2000-10-05
- Nagoya 2003-03-06
- Benaroya Hall 2003-10-22
- Adelaide 2006-11-21

I Got ID
- Soldier Field 1995-07-11
- Melbourne 1998-03-05

Long Road
- Berlin 1996-11-03
- Washington DC 1998-09-19

*Act of Love (incl here or on covers disc?)
- Washington DC 1998-09-19

*Throw Your Hatred Down (incl here or on covers disc?)
- Adelaide 2006-11-22


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I'd add the TB2k version of Long Road too.


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Betterman with Romanza plus full SIFL, please.


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cutuphalfdead wrote:
Betterman with Romanza plus full SIFL, please.


I like that the selection of tracks from Ten and Vs didn't include tags of covers on Daughter and Yellow Ledbetter.

Would like to see that continue with Betterman please.


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rimb wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:
Betterman with Romanza plus full SIFL, please.


I like that the selection of tracks from Ten and Vs didn't include tags of covers on Daughter and Yellow Ledbetter.

Would like to see that continue with Betterman please.

Definitely a good argument for that. Note that Porch and Rats both contained tags, but that was unavoidable due to the lack of similar quality versions without them.

I was thinking of perhaps including faded-in versions of common tags on the covers disc, to include It's Okay, SIFL (there's a near full version after Better Man finished from Chicago 2006 I believe), etc.


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ridleybradout wrote:
rimb wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:
Betterman with Romanza plus full SIFL, please.


I like that the selection of tracks from Ten and Vs didn't include tags of covers on Daughter and Yellow Ledbetter.

Would like to see that continue with Betterman please.

Definitely a good argument for that. Note that Porch and Rats both contained tags, but that was unavoidable due to the lack of similar quality versions without them.

I was thinking of perhaps including faded-in versions of common tags on the covers disc, to include It's Okay, SIFL (there's a near full version after Better Man finished from Chicago 2006 I believe), etc.

I'd settle for Romanza w/o SIFL.


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cutuphalfdead wrote:
ridleybradout wrote:
rimb wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:
Betterman with Romanza plus full SIFL, please.


I like that the selection of tracks from Ten and Vs didn't include tags of covers on Daughter and Yellow Ledbetter.

Would like to see that continue with Betterman please.

Definitely a good argument for that. Note that Porch and Rats both contained tags, but that was unavoidable due to the lack of similar quality versions without them.

I was thinking of perhaps including faded-in versions of common tags on the covers disc, to include It's Okay, SIFL (there's a near full version after Better Man finished from Chicago 2006 I believe), etc.

I'd settle for Romanza w/o SIFL.

Have a listen to Boise :nice: :heartbeat:


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ridleybradout wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:
ridleybradout wrote:
rimb wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:
Betterman with Romanza plus full SIFL, please.


I like that the selection of tracks from Ten and Vs didn't include tags of covers on Daughter and Yellow Ledbetter.

Would like to see that continue with Betterman please.

Definitely a good argument for that. Note that Porch and Rats both contained tags, but that was unavoidable due to the lack of similar quality versions without them.

I was thinking of perhaps including faded-in versions of common tags on the covers disc, to include It's Okay, SIFL (there's a near full version after Better Man finished from Chicago 2006 I believe), etc.

I'd settle for Romanza w/o SIFL.

Have a listen to Boise :nice: :heartbeat:

We'll never not play Boise again.


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Do any of the proposed versions of Immortality have that beautiful little intro that Ed sometimes plays?

Big fan of that.


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Yup - Berlin, Toronto and Adelaide all do :nice:


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SiFL is basically the latter third of Betterman. I hope it is included.


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Better Man from MSG 5/21/10. I thought this was just an unbelievable performance of the song.


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Damn, that last exit from Calgary is nice! Not sure I've heard that before

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Monkey_Driven wrote:
I'd add the TB2k version of Long Road too.


This. I have always enjoyed this version.

Immortality from Benaroya Hall gets my vote.

Not For You from Soldier Field is classic. Also great MSG 5/21/10 but has the Modern Girl tag.

I somehow remember Tremor Christ being really great during the ‘96 tour.

I think they played Satan’s Bed in Albany in ‘06 as I seem to remember that as a highlight.


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ridleybradout wrote:
Vitalogy's up next people - go!


Last Exit
- Washington DC 1995-01-14
- Berlin 1996-11-03
- Seattle 1998-07-22
- Boise 2000-11-03
- Irvine 2003-06-02
- Calgary 2005-09-04

Spin the Black Circle
- Saratoga 2000-08-27

Melbourne 95 or 98 have to be contenders? I'll listen to this later and make a further judgement.

Not For You
- Washington DC 1995-01-14
- Soldier Field 1995-07-11
- Milan 2000-06-22

Tremor Christ
- Melbourne 1995-03-17
- Detroit 2000-10-07
- Torino 2006-09-19

Nothingman
- Manchester 2000-06-04
- Seattle 2000-11-06
- State College 2003-05-03
- Holmdel 2003-07-14
- Prague 2006-09-22

Whipping
- Atlanta 1994-04-03
- Saratoga 2000-08-27
- St Louis 2000-10-11

Corduroy
- Washington DC 1995-01-14
- Chicago 1998-06-29 (LO2L)
- Indianapolis 2000-08-18 (incl slow IO)
- Washington DC 2000-09-04 (Touring Band DVD)
- New York 2003-07-09

The washington version is spectacular. When Eddie sings the first line as per the recorded version its a winner.

Bugs
- Philadelphia 2009-10-31

Satan’s Bed
- Atlanta 1994-04-03

Better Man
- Indianapolis 2000-08-18 (incl Romanza & SIFL)
- Kansas City 2000-10-12 (incl Romanza & SIFL+verse)
- Boise 2000-11-03 (incl Romanza & improv outro)
- Seattle 2000-11-06 (incl improv outro)

Immortality
- Berlin 1996-11-03
- Toronto 2000-10-05
- Nagoya 2003-03-06
- Benaroya Hall 2003-10-22
- Adelaide 2006-11-21

I Got ID
- Soldier Field 1995-07-11
- Melbourne 1998-03-05

Long Road
- Berlin 1996-11-03
- Washington DC 1998-09-19

*Act of Love (incl here or on covers disc?)
- Washington DC 1998-09-19

*Throw Your Hatred Down (incl here or on covers disc?)
- Adelaide 2006-11-22



Cheers


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