Mastered for iTunes

[McParadigm]

Has anybody listened much to these? I was previewing No Code, seeing as how a 24-bit mastering might be an improvement over the old CD rips I may or may not still be using (who can keep track anymore), and discovered a lyric change in Who You Are ("Avalanche, falling fast, driving winds, happenstance..."). I haven't looked, but a comment there claims that they used a different Alive solo on the MfiT version of Ten.

Are these changes that were introduced on Rearviewmirror, a case of "the engineer doesn't know the right take to use," or what?

[tragabigzanda]

WTF? This is headed towards Lucas-retooling-the-original-trilogy levels of pointless tinkering. Good thing I gave up on having a complete collection around the time the Rearviewmirror comp came out.

[LetMeSleep]

WTF? This is headed towards Lucas-retooling-the-original-trilogy levels of pointless tinkering. Good thing I gave up on having a complete collection around the time the Rearviewmirror comp came out.

I remember quite clearly see the RVM comp for the first time, picking it up and placing it back on the shelf.

[McParadigm]

Yeah it's weird

Beyond that, like a lot of mastered for iTunes stuff, it's neither the quality improvement you'd really like to have nor completely inconsequential. Little impacts you'd expect from 24-bit (and, thankfully, apple's strict clipping rules for the "MfiT" brand)...a tad more instrument separation, a teensy bit better dynamic "feel," etc. Pilate sounds really good through my monitor phones.

I might actually pick a few of these up and listen to some Pearl Jam albums I haven't heard in a while. Shame they stopped at Yield.

[Birds in Hell]

Is that the same lyrical change/alternate vocal take that was included on the RVM version of Who You Are?

(Not that I've ever noticed as I have no idea what the original lyrics were.)

Makes me wonder what master they're using on the upcoming vinyl reissue.

[McParadigm]

No way do I believe they did a run on 24 for this, and will then also do one for a vinyl reissue.

But then based on the samples, the Ten MfiT is the original mix in 24, and I would have expected just the last remix without any changes up there

[Strat]

yea that lyric change is on the RVM comp take.

[McParadigm]

yea that lyric change is on the RVM comp take.

And now it's on the record. Eventually, I suppose the original lyric version will be a find.

That aside, I hope they don't remaster No Code. This version gives exactly what I would have wanted from that, but not gotten: a slightly clearer, more textured capture of the record, without the accompanying revisionism or dynamics abuse.

yea that lyric change is on the RVM comp take.

And now it's on the record. Eventually, I suppose the original lyric version will be a find.

That aside, I hope they don't remaster No Code. This version gives exactly what I would have wanted from that, but not gotten: a slightly clearer, more textured capture of the record, without the accompanying revisionism or dynamics abuse.

I think they will do a remaster, and it'll be a complete poop chute version of it.