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Author:  McParadigm [ Sun July 24, 2016 7:07 pm ]
Post subject:  Mastered for iTunes
Has anybody listened much to these? I was previewing No Code, seeing as how a 24-bit mastering might be an improvement over the old CD rips I may or may not still be using (who can keep track anymore), and discovered a lyric change in Who You Are ("Avalanche, falling fast, driving winds, happenstance..."). I haven't looked, but a comment there claims that they used a different Alive solo on the MfiT version of Ten.

Are these changes that were introduced on Rearviewmirror, a case of "the engineer doesn't know the right take to use," or what?
Author:  tragabigzanda [ Sun July 24, 2016 9:11 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Mastered for iTunes
WTF? This is headed towards Lucas-retooling-the-original-trilogy levels of pointless tinkering. Good thing I gave up on having a complete collection around the time the Rearviewmirror comp came out.
Author:  LetMeSleep [ Sun July 24, 2016 9:26 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Mastered for iTunes
tragabigzanda wrote:
WTF? This is headed towards Lucas-retooling-the-original-trilogy levels of pointless tinkering. Good thing I gave up on having a complete collection around the time the Rearviewmirror comp came out.

I remember quite clearly see the RVM comp for the first time, picking it up and placing it back on the shelf.
Author:  McParadigm [ Sun July 24, 2016 11:33 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Mastered for iTunes
Yeah it's weird

Beyond that, like a lot of mastered for iTunes stuff, it's neither the quality improvement you'd really like to have nor completely inconsequential. Little impacts you'd expect from 24-bit (and, thankfully, apple's strict clipping rules for the "MfiT" brand)...a tad more instrument separation, a teensy bit better dynamic "feel," etc. Pilate sounds really good through my monitor phones.

I might actually pick a few of these up and listen to some Pearl Jam albums I haven't heard in a while. Shame they stopped at Yield.
Author:  Birds in Hell [ Mon July 25, 2016 1:34 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Mastered for iTunes
Is that the same lyrical change/alternate vocal take that was included on the RVM version of Who You Are?

(Not that I've ever noticed as I have no idea what the original lyrics were.)

Makes me wonder what master they're using on the upcoming vinyl reissue.
Author:  McParadigm [ Mon July 25, 2016 1:47 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Mastered for iTunes
No way do I believe they did a run on 24 for this, and will then also do one for a vinyl reissue.

But then based on the samples, the Ten MfiT is the original mix in 24, and I would have expected just the last remix without any changes up there
Author:  Strat [ Mon July 25, 2016 2:47 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Mastered for iTunes
yea that lyric change is on the RVM comp take.
Author:  McParadigm [ Wed July 27, 2016 3:04 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Mastered for iTunes
Strat wrote:
yea that lyric change is on the RVM comp take.

And now it's on the record. Eventually, I suppose the original lyric version will be a find.

That aside, I hope they don't remaster No Code. This version gives exactly what I would have wanted from that, but not gotten: a slightly clearer, more textured capture of the record, without the accompanying revisionism or dynamics abuse.
Author:  juggernaut [ Sun July 31, 2016 10:30 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Mastered for iTunes
McParadigm wrote:
Strat wrote:
yea that lyric change is on the RVM comp take.

And now it's on the record. Eventually, I suppose the original lyric version will be a find.

That aside, I hope they don't remaster No Code. This version gives exactly what I would have wanted from that, but not gotten: a slightly clearer, more textured capture of the record, without the accompanying revisionism or dynamics abuse.

I think they will do a remaster, and it'll be a complete poop chute version of it.
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