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 Post subject: PJ TV Performances Compilation (help needed!)
PostPosted: Thu June 16, 2016 12:00 am 
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Hi RMers

I'm currently compiling the ultimate PJ TV Performances audio collection and so have been pulling together the best known sources for these.

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I'm currently looking for the best quality (lossless if possible) versions out there of some of the 1992-2002 tracks (i.e. the pre-digital broadcast days). Currently I only have the 'JasonA Archive' DVD compilation versions of these and some youtube rips, which are great for video, but some could be better in the audio department (no offense Jason! :thumbsup: )

1992-09-09 MTV VMAs - Jeremy
1992-09-10 MTV Singles Premiere - SOLAT, Baba
1993-09-02 MTV VMAs - Animal, RITFW
1994-04-16 SNL - Not For You, Daughter, RVM
1996-09-20 Letterman - Hail Hail
1998-05-01 Letterman - Wishlist
2000-04-12 Letterman - Grievance
2002-11-14 Letterman - I Am Mine
2002-11-15 Letterman - Save You

1. Does anyone happen to have a VHS/DVD recording of any of these tracks with GOOD audio they could share?

2. Did any of these ever appear in GOOD quality on any old silver bootlegs? I found pretty good versions of the 'MTV Singles' tracks on the silver boot 'Against'.

3. I understand that some online streaming services in the US allow you to watch old archived episodes of classic shows. Does anyone know if any of these are available - MTV Video Music Awards, Saturday Night Live, The Late Show with David Letterman? If so, they may be the best possible source for the above tracks.

3a. If any of you American-based folks wants to help out and go one better, perhaps you could sign-up for a FREE trial of 'SeeSo' and see if PJ's 1994-04-16 appearance on SNL is included in the stream (S19E18):


https://www.seeso.com/view/series/saturday-night-live



Cheers and thanks in advance for any help/information you might be able to contribute to this project!


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Pool your sources and check your silver boots, folks. We need to figure this out.


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Awesome project, best of luck.

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Yea, great idea here.

Also, I went to go see if my original Chapters CD had the SNL air set, or the rehearsal...and where the f*ck is my Chapters CD, guys?!

I could potentially do the See-So thing if a simpler solution doesn't present itself first.


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Looks like seeso has the musical performances cut. The program audio was inconsistent anyways.


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I think silver boots are our best bet here, being that the PJ community isn't particularly organized to say the least.


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I have a CD copy of the "Against" boot. I have no idea if it is the "silver boot" version mentioned though.

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tragabigzanda wrote:
Yea, great idea here.

Also, I went to go see if my original Chapters CD had the SNL air set, or the rehearsal...and where the f*ck is my Chapters CD, guys?!

Chapters has the rehearsal unfortunately, thanks anyway - hope you find it :)

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I have a CD copy of the "Against" boot. I have no idea if it is the "silver boot" version mentioned though.

Thanks, but I already have the tracks from 'Against'. It has the best versions of the 'Singles' tracks so far :thumbsup:


The tracks most in need of an upgrade are 'I Am Mine' which was missing from JasonA's DVD (currently we only have a youtube rip), Animal/RITFW from MTV 93 VMAs, and the almighty MTV 92 VMA performance of Jeremy:




Keep it coming guys - we'll get there :nice:


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You probably already know this but there are some more recent ones you do not have listed as well:

Just Breathe, Unthought Known: SNL
Worldwide Suicide, Severed Hand: SNL
Got Some: Tonight Show with Conan
Ole & Mother: Late Night w/ Fallon
Life Wasted: Letterman
Masters of War: Letterman
Betterman (Ed w/ CBS Band): Letterman
Mind Your Manners: Colbert

And their first SNL was in '92 with Alive and...Porch? (I think)


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Biff Pocoroba wrote:
You probably already know this but there are some more recent ones you do not have listed as well:

Just Breathe, Unthought Known: SNL
Worldwide Suicide, Severed Hand: SNL
Got Some: Tonight Show with Conan
Ole & Mother: Late Night w/ Fallon
Life Wasted: Letterman
Masters of War: Letterman
Betterman (Ed w/ CBS Band): Letterman
Mind Your Manners: Colbert

And their first SNL was in '92 with Alive and...Porch? (I think)


Thanks Biff, I have HD digital versions of all of these (incl SNL 92 :nice: )

Here's the full tracklisting:
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Disc One

01. ALIVE
BBC The Late Show, February 4, 1992
*PJ's first TV performance - not widely shared - video below :thumbsup:

02. PORCH
03. ALIVE
Saturday Night Live, April 11, 1992

04. JEREMY
MTV Video Music Awards, September 9, 1992.

05. STATE OF LOVE AND TRUST
06. BABA O’RILEY
MTV ‘Singles’ Scene, September 10, 1992

07. ANIMAL
08. ROCKIN’ IN THE FREE WORLD
MTV Video Music Awards, September 2, 1993

09. NOT FOR YOU
10. REARVIEWMIRROR
11. DAUGHTER
Saturday Night Live, April 16, 1994

12. HAIL HAIL
The Late Show with David Letterman, September 20, 1996

13. WISHLIST
The Late Show with David Letterman, May 1, 1998

14. GRIEVANCE
The Late Show with David Letterman, April 12, 2000

15. I AM MINE
16. SAVE YOU
The Late Show with David Letterman, November 14, 2002

17. MASTERS OF WAR
The Late Show with David Letterman, September 30, 2004


Disc Two

01. WORLD WIDE SUICIDE
02. SEVERED HAND
Saturday Night Live, April 15, 2006

03. LIFE WASTED
The Late Show with David Letterman, May 4, 2006

04. WORLD WIDE SUICIDE
05. SEVERED HAND
06. ALIVE
Later... with Jools Holland, April, 2006

07. LOVE, RIEGN OVER ME
08. THE REAL ME
VH1 Rock Honours ‘The Who’, July 12, 2008

09. GOT SOME
10. ROCKIN’ IN THE FREE WORLD
The Tonight Show with Conan O’Brien, June 1, 2009

11. JUST BREATHE
12. UNTHOUGHT KNOWN
Saturday Night Live, March 13, 2010

13. OLÉ
14. ALL NIGHT
15. MOTHER
Late Night with Jimmy Fallon, September 8, 2011

16. SIRENS
17. LIGHTNING BOLT
Late Night with Jimmy Fallon, October 24, 2013

18. MIND YOUR MANNERS
19. ROCKIN’ IN THE FREE WORLD
The Late Show with Stephen Colbert, September 23, 2015

Bonus Tracks (EV)

WITHOUT YOU
The Late Show with David Letterman, June 20, 2011

BETTER MAN
The Late Show with David Letterman, May 18, 2015




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 Post subject: Re: PJ TV Performances Compilation (help needed!)
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Quote:
1992-09-09 MTV VMAs - Jeremy
1992-09-10 MTV Singles Premiere - SOLAT, Baba
1993-09-02 MTV VMAs - Animal, RITFW
1994-04-16 SNL - Not For You, Daughter, RVM
1996-09-20 Letterman - Hail Hail
1998-05-01 Letterman - Wishlist
2000-04-12 Letterman - Grievance
2002-11-14 Letterman - I Am Mine
2002-11-15 Letterman - Save You

I need to check my boxes, but I think I might have all of these performances on VHS from the original broadcasts. Not sure about the 2002 Letterman performances, but I know I have all of the others. All are HiFi-VHS with the exception of the Singles premiere party, but I've got TV > ANA recordings in stereo from that (Against may be better).

My SNL recording is from the original broadcast, so the audio is the live mix. (SNL often remixes the audio for the west coast and later airings, though I can't remember off-hand if they were doing it back then, too.) However, my local NBC affiliate at the time was actually cited as being one of the worst in the country, so I'll have to check the quality.

I've been meaning to convert a lot of these to audio anyway, so this would be a good kick in the pants to getting that done.

EDIT: Yes, I have the 2002 Letterman performances.


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As always, Ridley (and helpers!), you rule.

Is the extended '06 Letterman set outside the scope of what you're looking at for this project?


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PHATJ wrote:
I have a CD copy of the "Against" boot. I have no idea if it is the "silver boot" version mentioned though.


A "silver boot" just means it's a direct rip of the original bootleg CD, and not a CDR/cassette that somebody transferred with a gasoline powered laptop after shoving it up their ass sideways.


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Is the extended '06 Letterman set outside the scope of what you're looking at for this project?

Yeah, outside the scope. I may also remove the Conan RITFW which was also online only (and isn't that great quality) to ensure Disc Two actually fits under 80min.


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ridleybradout wrote:

3a. If any of you American-based folks wants to help out and go one better, perhaps you could sign-up for a FREE trial of 'SeeSo' and see if PJ's 1994-04-16 appearance on SNL is included in the stream (S19E18):


I'm on a TV torrent site that has a VHS rip of this season. No idea on the quality but I can download the episode and send it your way. Let me know.


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cundall23 wrote:
ridleybradout wrote:

3a. If any of you American-based folks wants to help out and go one better, perhaps you could sign-up for a FREE trial of 'SeeSo' and see if PJ's 1994-04-16 appearance on SNL is included in the stream (S19E18):


I'm on a TV torrent site that has a VHS rip of this season. No idea on the quality but I can download the episode and send it your way. Let me know.

That would be awesome if not too much trouble, thanks heaps :thumbsup:


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I also have these if they will help.

ridleybradout wrote:

1992-09-09 MTV VMAs - Jeremy

Source: TV > Bootleg CD ("Unplugged...and a little plugged" Music witth love 008) > EAC > .flac
Complete.

1992-09-10 MTV Singles Premiere - SOLAT, Baba

Source: TV(?)>Bootleg CD ("Against" KTS221)
Comment: Incomplete. Missing "RITFW".
01. State of love & trust
02. Baba O'Riley
I do have an mp3 of unknown origin of RITFW

1993-09-02 MTV VMAs - Animal, RITFW

Source: Soundboard (has to be...)
CD > WAV > SHN: Zimmerman (fourthtime@hotmail.com)
Equipment: Matshita CD-ROM CR-588 32x > Exact Audio Copy V0.9 > MKW Audio Compression Tool Kit
***********************************
*** DO NOT ENCODE TO MP3 ***
************************************
01 - Animal - 03:15
02 - Rocking In The Free World - 06:44
Total: 10:00
Notes:
- Track 02 w/ Neil Young
- Taken straight from a boot called "Jeremy Live". It is identical to another
bootleg called "Against". Excellent sound.

1994-04-16 SNL - Not For You, Daughter, RVM

Source: Video (??) > Bootleg CD: NO FUCKIN' MESSIAH!!
CD > WAV > SHN: Zimmerman (fourthtime@hotmail.com)
Equipment: Matshita CD-ROM CR-588 32x > Exact Audio Copy V0.9 > MKW Audio Compression Tool Kit
************************************
*** DO NOT ENCODE TO MP3 ***
************************************
01 - Not For You
02 - Rearviewmirror
03 - Daughter/(Hey Hey, My My)
Notes: Not sure about the exact source but I took this
one straight from the original bootleg CD "No Fuckin' Messiah!!"


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We've already got 'Against' and 'No Fucking Messiah', but would be great to hear Jeremy from "Unplugged...and a little plugged" and the "Jeremy Live" versions of Animal/RITFW (unless they really are identical to the tracks on the 'Against' boot).

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ridleybradout wrote:
We've already got 'Against' and 'No Fucking Messiah', but would be great to hear Jeremy from "Unplugged...and a little plugged" and the "Jeremy Live" versions of Animal/RITFW (unless they really are identical to the tracks on the 'Against' boot).

:thumbsup:


Where would you like them sent?

Also. I listened to the audio from the SNL VHS rip and to me it sounds identical to the No Fucking Messiah boot so it's probably not worth sending.


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I also found this for I Am Mine

Pearl Jam
Ed Sullivan Theater - The Late Show with David Letterman
New York, NY
November 14, 2002

Source: TV Broadcast (cable) > RCA TV > A/V OUT Jacks from TV > Sony DCR-TRV820 > Digital8
Transfer:
Audio: Digital8 > Sony DCR-TRV820 > FireWire > Adobe Premiere 6.0 > Cool Edit Pro (48KHz>44.1KHz)* > WAV

Compression:
SHN: WAV > mkwACT > SHN

Set 1:
I Am Mine
Set 2:
Save You**

Recorded and encoded by Ted Underhill

*Digital8 and DV record digital audio in 48KHz. This has been resampled to 44.1KHz using Cool Edit
Pro at the highest quality, for compatibility with Audio CD, VCD, and SVCD

**These were both recorded on November 14th. The Late Show tapes 2 shows on Thursday: one to
air Thursday night and the other to air on Friday.


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