Tue August 01, 2017 5:41 pm
bodysnatcher wrote:why do you have a 6 year old Rolling Stone magazine laying around?
Tue August 01, 2017 5:42 pm
TremorJam wrote:bodysnatcher wrote:why do you have a 6 year old Rolling Stone magazine laying around?
I was at my drummers house. I've got older Guitar Worlds, however.
Tue August 01, 2017 5:42 pm
Tue August 01, 2017 5:45 pm
Coach wrote:I'll always side with new music first - I could care less if they continue to tour. I really would like new music via a new record, followed by a Lost Dogs II.
Tue August 01, 2017 5:46 pm
bodysnatcher wrote:TremorJam wrote:bodysnatcher wrote:why do you have a 6 year old Rolling Stone magazine laying around?
I was at my drummers house. I've got older Guitar Worlds, however.
your drummer needs to get his act together
Tue August 01, 2017 5:57 pm
bodysnatcher wrote:Coach wrote:I'll always side with new music first - I could care less if they continue to tour. I really would like new music via a new record, followed by a Lost Dogs II.
I'd prefer a new album, just to see how they follow up the last two. LD2 would be cool, obviously, but they aren't going to blow their wad on unreleased material. They have a lot of years to keep the Pearl Jam machine running once they stop making new music. I've grown tired of all the touring bc it's just kind of the same thing over and over now. I wish they'd mix it up and do a Benaroya-style tour, but they'd never do that.
I don't want to see another show until there are new songs to be played.
Tue August 01, 2017 6:03 pm
Tue August 01, 2017 6:10 pm
Tue August 01, 2017 6:11 pm
E.H. Ruddock wrote:stip wrote:And since I'll keep carrying the 'people would like the last 3 albums a lot more if they were remixed/remastered/rewhatever the term is' I'd love to see that happen
Not the last 3, just S/T.
The last two sucked and I could care less how they were produced, the music is still not good.
Tue August 01, 2017 11:02 pm
Brett wrote:Mine wrote:For me the writing, as in whatever gets them the songwriting credit, is not even close to being the main issue.
What bothers me is the compositions as a whole that sound as if all of them are in the front seat. It started with s/t. A song like Come Back begs for a stripped down arrangement that gives it an intimate atmosphere. What they seem to be going for is a take on the kitsch 80's aesthetic as much as they possibly can which doesn't really work on most of the songs. Restrained compositions were something that they did routinely from Vs. to Riot Act but are practically gone since S/t.
What I'm trying to say is regardless of who is credited for the music they end up giving that kitsch sound to every song more or less.
Okay, so you're saying the arrangements are too elaborate, too full, or too slick. That seems to be a pretty common criticism, what with all the talk of keys, strings, "lasers," etc.
I'd have to agree that their compositional style isn't really supportive of that approach, so a lot of times it feels like an analysis of elements of popular music was conducted, and then the results were applied to the newest Pearl Jam™ product.
Tue August 01, 2017 11:02 pm
Brett wrote:Mine wrote:For me the writing, as in whatever gets them the songwriting credit, is not even close to being the main issue.
What bothers me is the compositions as a whole that sound as if all of them are in the front seat. It started with s/t. A song like Come Back begs for a stripped down arrangement that gives it an intimate atmosphere. What they seem to be going for is a take on the kitsch 80's aesthetic as much as they possibly can which doesn't really work on most of the songs. Restrained compositions were something that they did routinely from Vs. to Riot Act but are practically gone since S/t.
What I'm trying to say is regardless of who is credited for the music they end up giving that kitsch sound to every song more or less.
Okay, so you're saying the arrangements are too elaborate, too full, or too slick. That seems to be a pretty common criticism, what with all the talk of keys, strings, "lasers," etc.
I'd have to agree that their compositional style isn't really supportive of that approach, so a lot of times it feels like an analysis of elements of popular music was conducted, and then the results were applied to the newest Pearl Jam™ product.
Tue August 01, 2017 11:08 pm
Got Some wrote:Brett wrote:Mine wrote:For me the writing, as in whatever gets them the songwriting credit, is not even close to being the main issue.
What bothers me is the compositions as a whole that sound as if all of them are in the front seat. It started with s/t. A song like Come Back begs for a stripped down arrangement that gives it an intimate atmosphere. What they seem to be going for is a take on the kitsch 80's aesthetic as much as they possibly can which doesn't really work on most of the songs. Restrained compositions were something that they did routinely from Vs. to Riot Act but are practically gone since S/t.
What I'm trying to say is regardless of who is credited for the music they end up giving that kitsch sound to every song more or less.
Okay, so you're saying the arrangements are too elaborate, too full, or too slick. That seems to be a pretty common criticism, what with all the talk of keys, strings, "lasers," etc.
I'd have to agree that their compositional style isn't really supportive of that approach, so a lot of times it feels like an analysis of elements of popular music was conducted, and then the results were applied to the newest Pearl Jam™ product.
Agreed
Tue August 01, 2017 11:50 pm
Coach wrote:I'll always side with new music first - I could care less if they continue to tour. I really would like new music via a new record, followed by a Lost Dogs II.
Wed August 02, 2017 1:53 am
Iholdthepain wrote:Coach wrote:I'll always side with new music first - I could care less if they continue to tour. I really would like new music via a new record, followed by a Lost Dogs II.
*COULDN'T
Wed August 02, 2017 1:55 am
daft twat wrote:They may very well do an overly praised album, Super Bowl appearance, and overpriced tour after they all hit 60, but what would you like to see from this band before they're all 60?
1) Reunion with Dave A. at Rock Hall induction.
2) An acoustic amphitheater tour - Gorge, Red Rocks, Alpine, etc.
3) Lost Dogs 2, especially if Cold Concession and Let It Ride are any indication of what they have.
4) An album without Brenden.
5) One show co headlining with Soundgarden, TOTD encore.
Wed August 02, 2017 2:00 am
daft twat wrote:daft twat wrote:They may very well do an overly praised album, Super Bowl appearance, and overpriced tour after they all hit 60, but what would you like to see from this band before they're all 60?
1) Reunion with Dave A. at Rock Hall induction.
2) An acoustic amphitheater tour - Gorge, Red Rocks, Alpine, etc.
3) Lost Dogs 2, especially if Cold Concession and Let It Ride are any indication of what they have.
4) An album without Brenden.
5) One show co headlining with Soundgarden, TOTD encore.
Boy, this sure is depressing one year later.
Wed August 02, 2017 2:23 am
Wed August 02, 2017 2:29 am
Wed August 02, 2017 2:49 am
Iholdthepain wrote:'Maybe they'll turn Boom's keyboard up.'
Wed August 02, 2017 3:49 am
Iholdthepain wrote:'Maybe they'll blow Boom's keyboard up.'