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 Post subject: Re: With ten years left...
PostPosted: Tue August 01, 2017 5:41 pm 
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why do you have a 6 year old Rolling Stone magazine laying around?


I was at my drummers house. I've got older Guitar Worlds, however. :P


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why do you have a 6 year old Rolling Stone magazine laying around?


I was at my drummers house. I've got older Guitar Worlds, however. :P


your drummer needs to get his act together


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I'll always side with new music first - I could care less if they continue to tour. I really would like new music via a new record, followed by a Lost Dogs II.


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I'll always side with new music first - I could care less if they continue to tour. I really would like new music via a new record, followed by a Lost Dogs II.


I'd prefer a new album, just to see how they follow up the last two. LD2 would be cool, obviously, but they aren't going to blow their wad on unreleased material. They have a lot of years to keep the Pearl Jam machine running once they stop making new music. I've grown tired of all the touring bc it's just kind of the same thing over and over now. I wish they'd mix it up and do a Benaroya-style tour, but they'd never do that.

I don't want to see another show until there are new songs to be played.


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bodysnatcher wrote:
TremorJam wrote:
bodysnatcher wrote:
why do you have a 6 year old Rolling Stone magazine laying around?


I was at my drummers house. I've got older Guitar Worlds, however. :P


your drummer needs to get his act together


He really does. :lol:


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bodysnatcher wrote:
Coach wrote:
I'll always side with new music first - I could care less if they continue to tour. I really would like new music via a new record, followed by a Lost Dogs II.


I'd prefer a new album, just to see how they follow up the last two. LD2 would be cool, obviously, but they aren't going to blow their wad on unreleased material. They have a lot of years to keep the Pearl Jam machine running once they stop making new music. I've grown tired of all the touring bc it's just kind of the same thing over and over now. I wish they'd mix it up and do a Benaroya-style tour, but they'd never do that.

I don't want to see another show until there are new songs to be played.


This is why I didn't really care about the Tour last year. I bought tickets because my bass player, whom had never seen them wanted to go and they ended up cancelling. :? I tried to talk him into going to Hampton or Columbia, but he didn't want to make the drive. Man, I was pissed at him and PJ over that for awhile.. :|


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 Post subject: Re: With ten years left...
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Highly doubtful they'll ever go back to the grind. Every young artist wants what they currently have: no obligation to the album release cycle and total freedom.

I think they'll follow more of the Tom Petty route, and come out with stuff only when they're good and ready, and I'm fine with that.

There was a time when an album was needed every 1-3 years, often times artists go at this pace for just as much business related reason as for artistic reasons. Same with touring, I see bands that go out every single summer, and it's really to keep their bills paid. PJ do some of that, but it's relatively limited.

I want to know that when they do come with something or go out and play shows, it's purely because they want to. I guess that's the opposite of what alot of people around here think, that they've lost passion therefore they don't do as much. I actually think it's much wiser to stay home until the passion strikes. I think that's what they do for the most part.


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E.H. Ruddock wrote:
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And since I'll keep carrying the 'people would like the last 3 albums a lot more if they were remixed/remastered/rewhatever the term is' I'd love to see that happen

Not the last 3, just S/T.

The last two sucked and I could care less how they were produced, the music is still not good.


Just you wait!

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 Post subject: Re: With ten years left...
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Brett wrote:
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For me the writing, as in whatever gets them the songwriting credit, is not even close to being the main issue.
What bothers me is the compositions as a whole that sound as if all of them are in the front seat. It started with s/t. A song like Come Back begs for a stripped down arrangement that gives it an intimate atmosphere. What they seem to be going for is a take on the kitsch 80's aesthetic as much as they possibly can which doesn't really work on most of the songs. Restrained compositions were something that they did routinely from Vs. to Riot Act but are practically gone since S/t.
What I'm trying to say is regardless of who is credited for the music they end up giving that kitsch sound to every song more or less.


Okay, so you're saying the arrangements are too elaborate, too full, or too slick. That seems to be a pretty common criticism, what with all the talk of keys, strings, "lasers," etc.

I'd have to agree that their compositional style isn't really supportive of that approach, so a lot of times it feels like an analysis of elements of popular music was conducted, and then the results were applied to the newest Pearl Jam™ product.


Agreed


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Brett wrote:
Mine wrote:
For me the writing, as in whatever gets them the songwriting credit, is not even close to being the main issue.
What bothers me is the compositions as a whole that sound as if all of them are in the front seat. It started with s/t. A song like Come Back begs for a stripped down arrangement that gives it an intimate atmosphere. What they seem to be going for is a take on the kitsch 80's aesthetic as much as they possibly can which doesn't really work on most of the songs. Restrained compositions were something that they did routinely from Vs. to Riot Act but are practically gone since S/t.
What I'm trying to say is regardless of who is credited for the music they end up giving that kitsch sound to every song more or less.


Okay, so you're saying the arrangements are too elaborate, too full, or too slick. That seems to be a pretty common criticism, what with all the talk of keys, strings, "lasers," etc.

I'd have to agree that their compositional style isn't really supportive of that approach, so a lot of times it feels like an analysis of elements of popular music was conducted, and then the results were applied to the newest Pearl Jam™ product.


Agreed


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Got Some wrote:
Brett wrote:
Mine wrote:
For me the writing, as in whatever gets them the songwriting credit, is not even close to being the main issue.
What bothers me is the compositions as a whole that sound as if all of them are in the front seat. It started with s/t. A song like Come Back begs for a stripped down arrangement that gives it an intimate atmosphere. What they seem to be going for is a take on the kitsch 80's aesthetic as much as they possibly can which doesn't really work on most of the songs. Restrained compositions were something that they did routinely from Vs. to Riot Act but are practically gone since S/t.
What I'm trying to say is regardless of who is credited for the music they end up giving that kitsch sound to every song more or less.


Okay, so you're saying the arrangements are too elaborate, too full, or too slick. That seems to be a pretty common criticism, what with all the talk of keys, strings, "lasers," etc.

I'd have to agree that their compositional style isn't really supportive of that approach, so a lot of times it feels like an analysis of elements of popular music was conducted, and then the results were applied to the newest Pearl Jam™ product.


Agreed


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 Post subject: Re: With ten years left...
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Coach wrote:
I'll always side with new music first - I could care less if they continue to tour. I really would like new music via a new record, followed by a Lost Dogs II.

*COULDN'T

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Iholdthepain wrote:
Coach wrote:
I'll always side with new music first - I could care less if they continue to tour. I really would like new music via a new record, followed by a Lost Dogs II.

*COULDN'T

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Thank you.


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They may very well do an overly praised album, Super Bowl appearance, and overpriced tour after they all hit 60, but what would you like to see from this band before they're all 60?

1) Reunion with Dave A. at Rock Hall induction.
2) An acoustic amphitheater tour - Gorge, Red Rocks, Alpine, etc.
3) Lost Dogs 2, especially if Cold Concession and Let It Ride are any indication of what they have.
4) An album without Brenden.
5) One show co headlining with Soundgarden, TOTD encore.


Boy, this sure is depressing one year later.


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daft twat wrote:
They may very well do an overly praised album, Super Bowl appearance, and overpriced tour after they all hit 60, but what would you like to see from this band before they're all 60?

1) Reunion with Dave A. at Rock Hall induction.
2) An acoustic amphitheater tour - Gorge, Red Rocks, Alpine, etc.
3) Lost Dogs 2, especially if Cold Concession and Let It Ride are any indication of what they have.
4) An album without Brenden.
5) One show co headlining with Soundgarden, TOTD encore.


Boy, this sure is depressing one year later.

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PJ will play the Super Bowl within the next 5-10 years, guaranteed


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the squid recommended an experimental instrumental album...

'Maybe they'll turn Boom's keyboard up.'

bring Jack in for a track or three?

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'Maybe they'll turn Boom's keyboard up.'


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'Maybe they'll blow Boom's keyboard up.'

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