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 Post subject: With ten years left...
PostPosted: Fri June 03, 2016 2:58 am 
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They may very well do an overly praised album, Super Bowl appearance, and overpriced tour after they all hit 60, but what would you like to see from this band before they're all 60?

1) Reunion with Dave A. at Rock Hall induction.
2) An acoustic amphitheater tour - Gorge, Red Rocks, Alpine, etc.
3) Lost Dogs 2, especially if Cold Concession and Let It Ride are any indication of what they have.
4) An album without Brenden.
5) One show co headlining with Soundgarden, TOTD encore.


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Option 4. And I believe that option 3 is a given at some point regardless of them continuing as a band.


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They may very well do an overly praised album, Super Bowl appearance, and overpriced tour after they all hit 60, but what would you like to see from this band before they're all 60?

1) Reunion with Dave A. at Rock Hall induction.
2) An acoustic amphitheater tour - Gorge, Red Rocks, Alpine, etc.
3) Lost Dogs 2, especially if Cold Concession and Let It Ride are any indication of what they have.
4) An album without Brenden.
5) One show co headlining with Soundgarden, TOTD encore.


4) An album without Brenden.

I don't give a shit about the nostalgia stuff any more. I just want another album that feels immediate and vital, that isn't overly fussed over, and that sounds like a band playing off of each other rather than a bunch of finished compositions backed by a session band.


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I don't think they're capable of a great album anymore but, honestly, I don't think a standalone great album would be enough to affect me. It would be out on its own, not a part of any artistic narrative or moment, and Pearl Jam records don't have personality enough for that to be exciting. I'd honestly rather have a Springsteenesque period of creative resurgence that results in uneven and occasionally abnormal records than a single really good Pearl Jam record.

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2) An acoustic amphitheater tour - Gorge, Red Rocks, Alpine, etc.

This would be really cool but only if it were a semi-acoustic thing like Benaroya, with Mike still playing electric. I don't think an all-acoustic Pearl Jam show would be very interesting

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new album and a two week tour between NY, Boston and Philly. done and done.


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I always thought they should hang it up when they started turning 50 but I have totally changed my mind on that. Give me moar PJ.

Unless they start wearing sequins and spandex like the Rolling Stones. Then I am done.

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I don't think they're capable of a great album anymore


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tragabigzanda wrote:
just want another album that feels immediate and vital, that isn't overly fussed over, and that sounds like a band playing off of each other rather than a bunch of finished compositions backed by a session band.

This is how PJ describes their last 3 records.


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Option 4. And I believe that option 3 is a given at some point regardless of them continuing as a band.


Sorry. I didn't mean this as options. Those are just 5 things I'd like to see that I think are realistic expectations.

By the acoustic tour, I absolutely meant like Benaroya. I'd like to see that kind of show once.

Sadly, I also don't think a great album is a possibility. The last three albums have enough good songs to keep me interested, but they seem to always favor the songs I dislike at shows.


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Well now I feel daft.


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I can see them doing Pearl jam cruises. Ten nights sailing around the carribean and the band play every second night. Weezer have done it.

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All I care about is more good music. I still think they have it in them.

Ditching Brendan would be a good move.


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I'm in agreement about an album where they ditch BOB


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I can see them doing Pearl jam cruises. Ten nights sailing around the carribean and the band play every second night. Weezer have done it.

This sounds like something someone who couldn't score a Vegas residence would do.


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They should all go make a solo album and then have us vote on the best. The winner should take the lead writing role on the next album.

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For me the writing, as in whatever gets them the songwriting credit, is not even close to being the main issue.
What bothers me is the compositions as a whole that sound as if all of them are in the front seat. It started with s/t. A song like Come Back begs for a stripped down arrangement that gives it an intimate atmosphere. What they seem to be going for is a take on the kitsch 80's aesthetic as much as they possibly can which doesn't really work on most of the songs. Restrained compositions were something that they did routinely from Vs. to Riot Act but are practically gone since S/t.
What I'm trying to say is regardless of who is credited for the music they end up giving that kitsch sound to every song more or less.


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I just want more music to be honest. more music its fine.

Although the rock and roll hall of fame with Dave Krusen and Dave A will be a really cool moment.

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#1 Never
#2 A fan wish would be an impossible ticket.
#3 We'll get this sooner or later.
#4 I hope so.
#5 For when they can only play for an hour or so.

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For me the writing, as in whatever gets them the songwriting credit, is not even close to being the main issue.
What bothers me is the compositions as a whole that sound as if all of them are in the front seat. It started with s/t. A song like Come Back begs for a stripped down arrangement that gives it an intimate atmosphere. What they seem to be going for is a take on the kitsch 80's aesthetic as much as they possibly can which doesn't really work on most of the songs. Restrained compositions were something that they did routinely from Vs. to Riot Act but are practically gone since S/t.
What I'm trying to say is regardless of who is credited for the music they end up giving that kitsch sound to every song more or less.


Okay, so you're saying the arrangements are too elaborate, too full, or too slick. That seems to be a pretty common criticism, what with all the talk of keys, strings, "lasers," etc.

I'd have to agree that their compositional style isn't really supportive of that approach, so a lot of times it feels like an analysis of elements of popular music was conducted, and then the results were applied to the newest Pearl Jam™ product.


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