General Pearl Jam discussion.
Thu May 12, 2016 3:40 pm
LoathedVermin72 wrote:bodysnatcher wrote:I heard they went back and recorded Matt's drums for these two reissues
Yeah, and Ed also re-recorded all the vocals.
When the band told Matt that Jack played garbage can lids during Evolution, just scoffed and did a few drum fills
Thu May 12, 2016 6:01 pm
bodysnatcher wrote:I heard they went back and recorded Matt's drums for these two reissues
Super likely that they'll have contest or auction for copies that are signed by all the band, including Matt.
Thu May 12, 2016 9:26 pm
Alright, I bought Hail, Hail and Who You Are, because my copy is shit. I'll wait on the albums. If they ship and people go apeshit about them, I'll grab them then.
Fri May 13, 2016 12:43 pm
LoathedVermin72 wrote:bodysnatcher wrote:I heard they went back and recorded Matt's drums for these two reissues
Yeah, and Ed also re-recorded all the vocals.
I know I am in the minority here, but I like it when they do stuff like that. Maybe not for a reissue where the appeal is a new format like vinyl, but the old songs exist. I'd rather here new takes. Even if they are inferior there is likely to be something interesting about them that reframes the original songs by comparison.
Fri May 13, 2016 11:45 pm
They've been playing tracks from the Randall's island show quite a bit the past couple weeks. Maybe this will be released on vinyl for this this thing?
Fri May 13, 2016 11:48 pm
That would be wonderful (fuck vinyl though) but I'm not holding my breath.
I'm pessimistic about how many complete pre-2000 shows they have in "the vault".
Sat May 14, 2016 12:12 am
I have no interest in buying any new "old" product by Pearl Jam unless it's an unreleased concert. For all the shit talking they used to do about digital and how great vinyl is, they sure are an audiophile-unfriendly band. It was basically all senseless poser snake-oil babble on their part. They probably listen to their record collections on fucking Crosleys.
Sat May 14, 2016 12:40 am
stip wrote:LoathedVermin72 wrote:bodysnatcher wrote:I heard they went back and recorded Matt's drums for these two reissues
Yeah, and Ed also re-recorded all the vocals.
I know I am in the minority here, but I like it when they do stuff like that. Maybe not for a reissue where the appeal is a new format like vinyl, but the old songs exist. I'd rather here new takes. Even if they are inferior there is likely to be something interesting about them that reframes the original songs by comparison.
When you say "something interesting," you mean like changing "dad" to "Rod?"
Sat May 14, 2016 3:56 am
well, there are limits, but I like the slightly different music, the altered arrangement, the re-recorded vocals.
None of these are close to as good as the original, but I still got to hear the song in a different way.
Tue May 17, 2016 4:03 am
I got these. When are they supposed to ship?
Tue May 17, 2016 8:05 am
verb_to_trust wrote:I got these. When are they supposed to ship?
August is what they have said on the site but you know there'll be a screw up at the plant or something and they'll ship them out at Christmas. Or next year.
Wed May 18, 2016 9:20 am
I got the originals at reasonable prices in 05 - 06, and am selfishly frustrated at the reissues I knew were inevitably coming anyway. Does anyone know anything else about Bob Ludwig besides him ruining "nevermind"?
and does "mastered for vinyl" mean that its pressed with dynamics? or does it mean mastered s/t style?
Wed May 18, 2016 11:19 am
coptheriotact wrote:I got the originals at reasonable prices in 05 - 06, and am selfishly frustrated at the reissues I knew were inevitably coming anyway. Does anyone know anything else about Bob Ludwig besides him ruining "nevermind"?
and does "mastered for vinyl" mean that its pressed with dynamics? or does it mean mastered s/t style?
I'm guessing remastered with some mild dynamics, but not enough to satisfy RM.
They'll probably just run all of the tracks through the same shitty EQ across the board. i.e. no unique mixing/mastering focus per track. Typical half assed jissery.
Wed May 18, 2016 12:26 pm
Sgt. Crackpot wrote:coptheriotact wrote:I got the originals at reasonable prices in 05 - 06, and am selfishly frustrated at the reissues I knew were inevitably coming anyway. Does anyone know anything else about Bob Ludwig besides him ruining "nevermind"?
and does "mastered for vinyl" mean that its pressed with dynamics? or does it mean mastered s/t style?
I'm guessing remastered with some mild dynamics, but not enough to satisfy RM.
They'll probably just run all of the tracks through the same shitty EQ across the board. i.e.
no unique mixing/mastering focus per track. Typical half assed jissery.
Of course not, they aren't re-mixing these and that EQ is probably from the mixing rather than mastering.
Vinyl has some limitations so a really shitty CD master can be a problem.
Wed May 18, 2016 2:10 pm
So, this is literally just a Vinyl Reissue? No special edition, no b-sides, no vault, hell, not even a CD print or a Digital Copy?
Wed May 18, 2016 3:01 pm
KurtLeon wrote:So, this is literally just a Vinyl Reissue? No special edition, no b-sides, no vault, hell, not even a CD print or a Digital Copy?
Correct. Phase 2 coming soon: Reissue of all the studio albums on cassette.
Wed May 18, 2016 3:20 pm
Hoping we see some of these beauties reissued in the not too distant future:
http://m.ebay.com/itm/PEARL-JAM-10-MD-M ... 1719883174
Wed May 18, 2016 3:25 pm
oh man, I forgot they did those.
Wed May 18, 2016 3:33 pm
HA. You're hilarious.
I had all of them that were released, as well as a few others. I loved my MD player, right up to when Sony decided to take forever to allow mp3 recording. Too little too late by then. Got a ton of money for my set though, way more than I paid for any of it. Hell, the blank discs I had sold for almost 400% profit.
Wed May 18, 2016 4:57 pm
E.H. Ruddock wrote:KurtLeon wrote:So, this is literally just a Vinyl Reissue? No special edition, no b-sides, no vault, hell, not even a CD print or a Digital Copy?
Correct. Phase 2 coming soon: Reissue of all the studio albums on cassette.
Fuck Pearl Jam
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