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 Post subject: Re: No Code and Yield vinyl reissues in 10C shop!
PostPosted: Tue May 10, 2016 6:55 pm 
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I hope they brickwall the shit out of them

No Code doesn't have much of a decent dynamic range going on as it is.

:? Sometimes --> Hail, Hail and Off He Goes --> Habit both prove this statement wrong, at least to my ears. Never looked at a wav form, though.


The music at the end of Present Tense is some of the best ever recorded by the band. Lots going on with it that would also prove that wrong.

http://dr.loudness-war.info/album/view/87508

It's on pair with the last 2 records.


I think we need to parse the data...

No Code: http://dr.loudness-war.info/album/view/87508
Lightning Bolt: http://dr.loudness-war.info/album/view/61172

It shows that No Code has an album dynamic range of 7, and LB has a range of 8, but all that means is that LB's quietest and loudest parts are effectively one db larger than No Code's. But look at the actual track comparisons. The first six tracks on LB are nearly identical in volume and dynamic range, while the first half of No Code shows a lot more variety in volume levels:

No Code:

DR9 -0.18 dB -12.42 dB 01 - Sometimes.m4a
DR5 -0.17 dB -6.61 dB 02 - Hail, Hail.m4a
DR7 -0.05 dB -9.00 dB 03 - Who You Are.m4a
DR7 -0.18 dB -8.80 dB 04 - In My Tree.m4a
DR7 -0.18 dB -8.81 dB 05 - Smile.m4a
DR10 -0.05 dB -12.47 dB 06 - Off He Goes.m4a
DR5 -0.17 dB -6.53 dB 07 - Habit.m4a
DR6 -0.18 dB -7.64 dB 08 - Red Mosquito.m4a
DR7 -0.02 dB -9.21 dB 09 - Lukin.m4a
DR9 -0.18 dB -13.75 dB 10 - Present Tense.m4a
DR7 -0.01 dB -8.33 dB 11 - Mankind.m4a
DR8 -0.12 dB -10.69 dB 12 - I'm Open.m4a
DR8 -0.05 dB -10.30 dB 13 - Around the Bend.m4a

LB:

DR7 -0.30 dB -8.31 dB 3:27 1/12-Getaway
DR7 -0.23 dB -8.03 dB 2:39 2/12-Mind Your Manners
DR7 -0.30 dB -7.96 dB 3:07 3/12-My Father's Son
DR7 -0.30 dB -8.42 dB 5:41 4/12-Sirens
DR7 -0.30 dB -9.01 dB 4:13 5/12-Lightning Bolt
DR7 -0.30 dB -8.35 dB 5:22 6/12-Infallible
DR10 -0.30 dB -12.23 dB 3:44 7/12-Pendulum
DR7 -0.30 dB -9.04 dB 3:52 8/12-Swallowed Whole
DR8 -0.30 dB -9.39 dB 3:47 9/12-Let the Records Play
DR8 -0.30 dB -10.90 dB 3:04 10/12-Sleeping by Myself
DR7 -0.30 dB -9.17 dB 3:52 11/12-Yellow Moon
DR12 -0.30 dB -16.22 dB 4:23 12/12-Future Days

Look no matter how you interpret the data it's still firmly on the more compressed side especially considering how dynamic the compositions are, far more than the LB songs. The fact that a big chunk of LB has roughly the same dynamic range is to be expected considering how monotonous the compositions are.


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 Post subject: Re: No Code and Yield vinyl reissues in 10C shop!
PostPosted: Tue May 10, 2016 6:56 pm 
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Trag i want to cup your balls.

You'll need both hands free for this.

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(I'm not suggesting my balls are huge, just that they've begun to sag an awful lot as I've gotten older).


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 Post subject: Re: No Code and Yield vinyl reissues in 10C shop!
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assuming these be available in stores in august?


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clearly a new intern out to impress but trying too hard in 10c hq

The 1996 sessions for No Code featured longtime producer Brendan OBrien (his third consecutive collaboration with the band) and drummer Jack Irons, who'd joined the band at the end of the Vitalogy sessions. They explored new approaches to writing and recording, developing songs out of jam sessions and eschewing their stadium-grunge style for self-examining ballads, garage rock and even psychedelic sounds. No Code became the band's third consecutive No. 1 album, with lead single "Who You Are"topping Billboard's Modern Rock chart.


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bodysnatcher wrote:
assuming these be available in stores in august?



was just thinking this a while ago..wasted $20 on shipping if thats the case


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assuming these be available in stores in august?



was just thinking this a while ago..wasted $20 on shipping if thats the case


i would think so since the other reissues have been, but who knows


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LoathedVermin72 wrote:
I hope they brickwall the shit out of them

It's Bob Ludwig. They will be brickwalled as shit. (He brickwalls almost everything he touches, then blames the label/artist/whoever for "asking him to" brickwall it.)

Asshole's ruined more than his fair share of releases in the last fifteen years. (His horrific remaster of Nevermind should be considered a war crime.)


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 Post subject: Re: No Code and Yield vinyl reissues in 10C shop!
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No Code (and Vitalogy) sound perfect to me as is...

what would brickwalling do to No Code?

genuine question..i hate how ST sounds if thats any guide


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UglyRedHonda wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
I hope they brickwall the shit out of them

It's Bob Ludwig. They will be brickwalled as shit. (He brickwalls almost everything he touches, then blames the label/artist/whoever for "asking him to" brickwall it.)

Asshole's ruined more than his fair share of releases in the last fifteen years. (His horrific remaster of Nevermind should be considered a war crime.)

:hooray:

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dimejinky99 wrote:
No Code (and Vitalogy) sound perfect to me as is...

what would brickwalling do to No Code?

genuine question..i hate how ST sounds if thats any guide

It would make it sound more like ST.


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 Post subject: Re: No Code and Yield vinyl reissues in 10C shop!
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bodysnatcher wrote:
dimejinky99 wrote:
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assuming these be available in stores in august?



was just thinking this a while ago..wasted $20 on shipping if thats the case


i would think so since the other reissues have been, but who knows

They probably will be and i guess it will be released as a hd digital download too.
Nowhere does the 10C state the release is exclusive to them.


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cutuphalfdead wrote:
dimejinky99 wrote:
No Code (and Vitalogy) sound perfect to me as is...

what would brickwalling do to No Code?

genuine question..i hate how ST sounds if thats any guide

It would make it sound more like ST.



well then it's a fucking awful idea if it happens.


I've always said if PJ just used the same guitars pedals and setting that they used on Hail Hail, everything would sound amazing..

if he's about to fuck that up via mastering, well fuck him


might not happen though. Mastering for vinyl doesn't mean brickwalling..


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tragabigzanda wrote:
I own No Code, but the gatefold is in rough shape because I had it thumbtacked to my wall when I was a kid.


I bet you took your Star Wars toys out of their boxes too.

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Simple Torture wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:
I own No Code, but the gatefold is in rough shape because I had it thumbtacked to my wall when I was a kid.


I bet you took your Star Wars toys out of their boxes too.



i nearly bought a set of star wars figures today..ten in the box...Rey & BB8 were in there as well as Han and Chewie..


what the hell was i doing in a disney store..


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I hope when they "recreate" the packaging on Yield, they do a better job than the original. I just pulled mine out to give it a spin, and all the "liner notes" are smashed onto one side of the sleeve. Looks like shit.

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Why not repress Merkinball, too?

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Why not repress Merkinball, too?


as a 12" Image


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I was a bit disappointed to see this as I thought it would mean no box set but surely 10C are a good chance to drop a super deluxe version next for the old wallet double hit trick once vinyl preorders have been filled. I've still got my Yield and No Code LPs but might get the 7"s. Hopefully they give Hail, Hail a vinyl release.

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I was a bit disappointed to see this as I thought it would mean no box set but surely 10C are a good chance to drop a super deluxe version next for the old wallet double hit trick once vinyl preorders have been filled. I've still got my Yield and No Code LPs but might get the 7"s. Hopefully they give Hail, Hail a vinyl release.



The hail hail 7 inch single is available in the shop


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I'd totes get those singles but i dont really enjoy playing 7" 8-)


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