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bodysnatcher · **Posted:** Tue February 06, 2024 4:50 pm

Wrong thread

wease · **Posted:** Tue February 06, 2024 6:23 pm

Is it ever the right thread?

Buby · **Posted:** Tue February 06, 2024 10:35 pm

knee tunes wrote:

bluestate wrote:

Hypnosomnia wrote:

Stupid Mop without the vocal track and the weird kid:
https://voca.ro/12clSzfPeLpn

So it's basically a pop song now

^mop

Still creepy AF to my ears, but I do appreciate being able to sit through the whole thing for the first time in ages.

1994 me probably still thinks that including Pry To, Bugs, and Stupid Mop on Vitalogy was a kick ass move by PJ.
2024 me definitely feels it was a damn crime.
I sometimes fantasize about a 1995 Vitalogy with I Got ID, Long Road, and HTI instead of those tracks.

Ms Harmless · **Posted:** Tue February 06, 2024 11:32 pm

Vitalogy is a work of art because of the weird shit

VinylGuy · **Joined:** Tue January 01, 2013 5:10 pm **Posts:** 36477

Im listening to Fugazi now, and i always consider this one to be the fugazi period of Pearl Jam.

Do you guys agree?

liebzz · **Joined:** Thu January 03, 2013 7:55 pm **Posts:** 7698

Buby wrote:

knee tunes wrote:

bluestate wrote:

Hypnosomnia wrote:

Stupid Mop without the vocal track and the weird kid:
https://voca.ro/12clSzfPeLpn

So it's basically a pop song now

^mop

Still creepy AF to my ears, but I do appreciate being able to sit through the whole thing for the first time in ages.

1994 me probably still thinks that including Pry To, Bugs, and Stupid Mop on Vitalogy was a kick ass move by PJ.
2024 me definitely feels it was a damn crime.
I sometimes fantasize about a 1995 Vitalogy with I Got ID, Long Road, and HTI instead of those tracks.

While Vitalogy is great as it is, I now want to do this.

tragabigzanda · **Posted:** Tue February 06, 2024 11:46 pm

VinylGuy wrote:

Im listening to Fugazi now, and i always consider this one to be the fugazi period of Pearl Jam.

Do you guys agree?

I think there’s more Fugazi influence — musical and thematic — on Binaural and Riot Act.

VinylGuy · **Joined:** Tue January 01, 2013 5:10 pm **Posts:** 36477

really? i can hear the sound on Vitalogy being closer to fugazi than Binaural. RA sounds way more poppy than anything Fugazi did.

tragabigzanda · **Posted:** Tue February 06, 2024 11:54 pm

Gods Dice, Evacuation, Insignificance, and Grievance all have a lot of Fugazi in their guitar interplay.

Outside of Green Disease, there’s not as much musical influence on RA, but Ed was clearly in the Dischord headspace during that era, and it’s reflected more in the lyrics.

VinylGuy · **Joined:** Tue January 01, 2013 5:10 pm **Posts:** 36477

yeah, i can see it on those songs but Vitalogy´s harsh sound, tightness and ferocity reminds me a lot of early Fugazi.

wease · **Posted:** Wed February 07, 2024 12:14 am

liebzz wrote:

Buby wrote:

knee tunes wrote:

bluestate wrote:

Hypnosomnia wrote:

Stupid Mop without the vocal track and the weird kid:
https://voca.ro/12clSzfPeLpn

So it's basically a pop song now

^mop

Still creepy AF to my ears, but I do appreciate being able to sit through the whole thing for the first time in ages.

1994 me probably still thinks that including Pry To, Bugs, and Stupid Mop on Vitalogy was a kick ass move by PJ.
2024 me definitely feels it was a damn crime.
I sometimes fantasize about a 1995 Vitalogy with I Got ID, Long Road, and HTI instead of those tracks.

While Vitalogy is great as it is, I now want to do this.

Nah. Long Road and I Got Shit sound too different with Jack’s drumming. HTI on the other hand…

stip · **Joined:** Thu December 13, 2012 6:31 pm **Posts:** 40178

hard to imagine would have been a great hidden album track following about 30 or seconds after the end of Immortality

VinylGuy · **Joined:** Tue January 01, 2013 5:10 pm **Posts:** 36477

those songs dont belong in Vitalogy, they are closer in sound with No Code.

HTI is closer to Vs to me.

Val · **Joined:** Thu December 07, 2023 9:27 am **Posts:** 913

How would you guys define the musical style of Vitalogy?

And why didn't PJ ever come back to this sub-genre?

injuddstree · **Joined:** Tue March 12, 2013 10:21 am **Posts:** 396

Val wrote:

How would you guys define the musical style of Vitalogy?

And why didn't PJ ever come back to this sub-genre?

It's a dark, alternative rock record.

Ms Harmless · **Posted:** Wed February 07, 2024 10:24 am

Vitalogy might be the closest to what "grunge" is supposed to be: it has punk, metal, classic rock, blues and country influences

Vitalogist · **Joined:** Fri October 27, 2023 1:30 pm **Posts:** 479

Ms Harmless wrote:

Vitalogy might be the closest to what "grunge" is supposed to be: it has punk, metal, classic rock, blues and country influences

It’s a perfect album

tragabigzanda · **Posted:** Wed February 07, 2024 2:43 pm

I feel like screaming trees most accurately captured the platonic ideal of “grunge.”

stip · **Joined:** Thu December 13, 2012 6:31 pm **Posts:** 40178

tragabigzanda wrote:

I feel like screaming trees most accurately captured the platonic ideal of “grunge.”

Sweet Oblivion in particular, which is a perfect record.

Buby · **Posted:** Wed February 07, 2024 4:39 pm

VinylGuy wrote:

those songs dont belong in Vitalogy, they are closer in sound with No Code.

HTI is closer to Vs to me.

Bold statement.

Either way, Stupid Mop is almost 8 minutes long, that's prime real estate on a vinyl that's superb, and let's face it, no one is playing those 8 minutes.

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