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Post subject: Re: Rank the Albums Again. This Time Weighted! #3: Yield
Posted: Fri August 21, 2015 7:36 pm
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stip wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:
evenslow wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:
stip wrote:
I'm kind of surprised to see that Yield's most common position was 5.
Yield has always been a tale of two albums for me (just like S/T actually). A handful of songs that are among my all time favorites, and a lot of stuff that is decent, and I don't mind hearing, but never really seek out.
It was also the pearl jam record where you really started to see the massive migration of the Ten-Vitalogy fans. The ones who didn't like No Code but were ready to give them one more chance. Definitely a record that, at the time, I felt like I had to defend. By the time Binaural comes out pearl jam was definitely in that space where they didn't really matter much, but hadn't put in enough time to make the transition to old guard standard bearers.
And I think that scenario -- coupled with the state of the music industry then -- created an outlet for some really great, challenging music. They had their committed fan base, but didn't need to worry about attracting new listeners, because Sony was still footing the bill for touring and promotion. Whatever faults may exist with Binaural and Riot Act, those are two albums completely devoid of any commercial aspirations.
I had a slightly different experience with that run of albums. Many of my friends actually started to become alienated when Vitalogy came out, mostly because they're idiots, and also they didn't like some of the harsher songs mixed with experiments like Pry To. They liked Corduroy and Betterman, and that was it.
Then No Code officially sealed the deal. Who You Are being the first single made them jump off the train completely. The book was closed on Pearl Jam, as far as they were concerned. I was an oddity - "You still listen to those guys!?"
Yield was actually semi-successful in bringing many people I knew back into the fold. Given to Fly as lead single, anthems like Faithfull and In Hiding, and I don't know anyone who didn't immediately connect with Do The Evolution.
Then Binaural and Riot Act came out and they may as well have been the Spin Doctors to most people.
My pre-Binaural experience was pretty much the same. But although they did fall out of popular favor when Binaural came out, I don't think that mattered to Sony -- they still had a huge, dedicated fan base. Sony could count on tours selling out, on profitable merch sales, and could funnel those profits into the development new artists patterned after N*Sync and The White Stripes.
I wrote a big, bloated think piece on this a few years back:
Thanks guys, I appreciate that. I used to write a lot for a great recording magazine called Tape Op. That was more interviews with producers and engineers, musicians, and studio owners, plus the odd gear review. Nothing else of note. I tried like the dickens to get BOB, but could never get past his assistant.
Post subject: Re: Rank the Albums Again. This Time Weighted! #1: Vitalogy
Posted: Fri August 21, 2015 8:15 pm
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CopperTom wrote:
E.H. Ruddock wrote:
hey 4/5, since school is back in session and you have a bunch of free time on your hands, you gonna do this system for each album and it's songs?
I was going to ask the same thing.
4/5 is gonna do this for every song in the catalog, and then turn each song's scores into baseball stats and have a whatif tournament based on those stats.
hey 4/5, since school is back in session and you have a bunch of free time on your hands, you gonna do this system for each album and it's songs?
I was going to ask the same thing.
4/5 is gonna do this for every song in the catalog, and then turn each song's scores into baseball stats and have a whatif tournament based on those stats.
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Post subject: Re: Rank the Albums Again. This Time Weighted! #1: Vitalogy
Posted: Fri August 21, 2015 8:35 pm
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CopperTom wrote:
Lament wrote:
CopperTom wrote:
E.H. Ruddock wrote:
hey 4/5, since school is back in session and you have a bunch of free time on your hands, you gonna do this system for each album and it's songs?
I was going to ask the same thing.
4/5 is gonna do this for every song in the catalog, and then turn each song's scores into baseball stats and have a whatif tournament based on those stats.
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Lance fucking Johnson
