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Post subject: Re: What is Each Album's Major Flaw?: Vs.
Posted: Tue May 13, 2014 1:31 am
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The part where Stone comes in on backing vocals on Glorified G is one of the most dementedly fun moments of their career. Glorified G gets a pass in my book solely for that. It's a shame they don't utilize Stone's voice in that manner more frequently.
Post subject: Re: What is Each Album's Major Flaw?: Vs.
Posted: Tue May 13, 2014 1:32 am
AnalLog
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The flaws of Vs really mimic the flaws of the band in this era of their career. Vs should have been their Joshua Tree, the fact it wasn't is a shame. The world was waiting for the follow up to Ten. The sales were gonna be huge, but the story of Vs is that of the band. A album that resists it's self by a band that resist's it's self. I blame the alt/punk rock ethos of the time for this. It is not that they didn't try they did' and produced a really good album that could have been great had Ed not been paralized from all the B.S of the time. In someways we think Ed doesn't give a shit what people think, but I think at this point in his career he wanted to belong. So he did care what fellows like Stipe, Cobain, Young and so on and so on thought, and this made it hard for him to function as a songwriter. I also hate the track list. So I listen to it like this Indifference Animal Blood Rats Wma Go Daughter Elderly Woman Dissidents Rvm
Post subject: Re: What is Each Album's Major Flaw?: Vs.
Posted: Tue May 13, 2014 1:34 am
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Lament wrote:
The part where Stone comes in on backing vocals on Glorified G is one of the most dementedly fun moments of their career. Glorified G gets a pass in my book solely for that. It's a shame they don't utilize Stone's voice in that manner more frequently.
Post subject: Re: What is Each Album's Major Flaw?: Vs.
Posted: Tue May 13, 2014 1:37 am
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McParadigm wrote:
Lament wrote:
The part where Stone comes in on backing vocals on Glorified G is one of the most dementedly fun moments of their career. Glorified G gets a pass in my book solely for that. It's a shame they don't utilize Stone's voice in that manner more frequently.
Post subject: Re: What is Each Album's Major Flaw?: Vs.
Posted: Tue May 13, 2014 1:45 am
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Vs. always hovers just outside the top 4 or 5 for me, but I don't really think there's much wrong with it. Parts of it are a tad underwritten, particularly lyrically, but there's other aspects of their sound and personality they exploit here better than anywhere else to make up for the deficiency. It's not that they wrote bad songs here; they just wrote better ones elsewhere. I still love this record.
Post subject: Re: What is Each Album's Major Flaw?: Vs.
Posted: Tue May 13, 2014 1:45 am
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Lament wrote:
The part where Stone comes in on backing vocals on Glorified G is one of the most dementedly fun moments of their career. Glorified G gets a pass in my book solely for that. It's a shame they don't utilize Stone's voice in that manner more frequently.
This would have been a cool thing to throw into Johnny Guitar if they had made that song longer.
Post subject: Re: What is Each Album's Major Flaw?: Vs.
Posted: Tue May 13, 2014 3:39 am
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Lament wrote:
The part where Stone comes in on backing vocals on Glorified G is one of the most dementedly fun moments of their career. Glorified G gets a pass in my book solely for that. It's a shame they don't utilize Stone's voice in that manner more frequently.
Totally agree. Hearing ''Glorified G'' live in St. Louis a few years ago was one of the most purely joyful moments of my concertgoing career.
Post subject: Re: What is Each Album's Major Flaw?: Vs.
Posted: Tue May 13, 2014 1:03 pm
AnalLog
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I agree with pretty much everyone who's saying that there isn't really a major flaw beyond some weak moments with song-writing and lyrics. There's great performances throughout, here. Sure, I place Vs. about smack in the middle when I rank the albums, but that's mostly because I no longer relate to much of it, and thus I hold about half the catalog in slightly higher esteem because I find them more "listenable" nowadays.
"Blood" and "Leash" are my least favorite tunes from the album, but I never really cared for them back when I first got into the record, either, so that's nothing new. "RVM" and "Glorified G" are my favorites. I get disliking the latter, because it's honestly pretty damn silly, but it's also quite fun, and well put together.
Post subject: Re: What is Each Album's Major Flaw?: Vs.
Posted: Tue May 13, 2014 1:29 pm
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I love drummer debates! Well, I just like talking drumming in general. Drums are typically what I gravitate towards first with music, and yeah, Dave A. was pretty damn good. I prefer Jack, but Dave was close. Matt is meh with PJ, and great with SG. By "meh" I think he sounds sterile and robotic a lot of time, maybe even boring and out of place too. On the other hand, he has some really insanely great moments with PJ as well, but it's just not as consistently interesting as Dave A., and Jack were.
Oh, and I really dig Glorified G. It's fun with a nice groove to it. I like Rats too, I'd actually rather listen to Rats then Small Town or Indifference.
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