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Cold Confession vs. Army Reserve
Cold Confession 47%  47%  [ 27 ]
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Birds in Hell
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Strat wrote:
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I'm starting to fear that I don't like Matt Cameron's drumming.

I love both Matt Cameron's drumming and his songwriting but I don't think his style works in Pearl Jam.

Pearl Jam haven't made an album I love since Matt joined and I don't think they can while he remains in the band.

Bummer.



You think its really all on the drummer though?

No, it's definitely not Matt's fault, but I don't think good songwriting alone is enough either.
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I feel the same way about the post-Yield albums, but I just thought that's b/c I graduated college about then.

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I don't think it's any coincidence that my favourite Pearl Jam songs since 1998 are largely those Matt has written (Evacuation, In the Moonlight, Cropduster, Unemployable, etc.)

I seem to find it a lot easier to enjoy songs where the band adapts to Matt's more cerebral musical sensibility than him trying to find a way to work into theirs.
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I'll say that I think Ten-Yield would be just as good as they are had Matt been in PJ then.
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I'll say that I think Ten-Yield would be just as good as they are had Matt been in PJ then.

no

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Army Reserve sucks guys. It shouldn't be winning.

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LoathedVermin72 wrote:
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I'll say that I think Ten-Yield would be just as good as they are had Matt been in PJ then.

no


Exactly. Have you heard Matt try to drum to Who You Are? It's pathetic.
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he would have made GTF and DTE better, though.

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stip wrote:
he would have made GTF and DTE better, though.

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he would have made GTF and DTE better, though.


Really? I've always found Jack's drumming in "GTF" to be critical to the calming, gentle rumble of that song's verses. I don't think any of the Matt-era versions -- fine though many of them have been in their own regard -- come close to achieving that feel.

I like Matt as a drummer, even with PJ, but he causes most of the Irons songs to suffer in character.
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he would have made GTF and DTE better, though.

Wait, what? Cameron? Matt? Cameron? Would've made GTF BETTER? Better, you're saying? Matt Cameron? Better on GTF than Jack Irons?

Wait, what?
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Stip is out of control.
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LikeImean, I get different opinions and whatever. But that might be the weirdest thing I've ever seen him post.
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Stip is out of control.

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Thejambi wrote:
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Stip is out of control.


He's like a gremmie.
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darth_vedder wrote:
Thejambi wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:
Stip is out of control.


He's like a gremmie.

:facepalm:

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LoathedVermin72 wrote:
darth_vedder wrote:
Thejambi wrote:
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Stip is out of control.


He's like a gremmie.

:facepalm:


You know you loved it.
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darth_vedder wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
darth_vedder wrote:
Thejambi wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:
Stip is out of control.


He's like a gremmie.

:facepalm:


You know you loved it.


it gave me half a tickle.

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Thejambi wrote:
darth_vedder wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
darth_vedder wrote:
Thejambi wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:
Stip is out of control.


He's like a gremmie.

:facepalm:


You know you loved it.


it gave me half a tickle.


:ohyeah!:
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