Red Mosquito :: View topic - Lets Actually Listen to the Album: Backspacer

I don't feel right about posting my negative feelings on this album again.

But Mike, you're totally right about ATW. This album is a consistently enjoyable listen apart from Supersonic. Johnny Guitar and The End are the most fully-realised pieces of awesomeness, I think.

harmless wrote:

Force Of Nature is starting. Fuck the haters, that song is awesome. Yeah, the intro is cheesy as fuck and the riff isn't the most inspired piece of art but Ed totally makes this song. And the piano is a nice touch.

Mike wrote:

harmless wrote:

I like the piano in the second verse, yeah. The riff, the chords, the melody, are all fairly uninspired but it's all... nice enough. It works to put you in a good mood. I feel as if SOS is so ridiculously busy that it's very easy to mock, but it's good. I think it would've sat better in a more experimental pop album.

harmless wrote:

Mike wrote:

harmless wrote:

Yeah, SOS is way too busy and it almost ruins the song. The base of the song is pretty awesome but the studio version ends up being mediocre.

What instruments are being played on The End? Strings and horn?

harmless wrote:

I think the Orchestration on The End works, actually. Hopefully the stuff all over FD will be more The End and less SOS.

Mike wrote:

harmless wrote:

Best song on the album, i love it

harmless wrote:

I think the Orchestration on The End works, actually. Hopefully the stuff all over FD will be more The End and less SOS.

Yep, I agree.

Thoughts on the instrumentation on Backspacer that might be BOB's fault/idea:
The Fixer - I'm not really sure what instruments are being played here next to the main ones but I like whatever I'm hearing. Piano/Keyboard?
Just Breathe - The flute (or is it flute-like sounds on a keyboard? :lol:

) in the verses are nice. The chorus is too over the top.
Amongst The Waves - I like the keyboard/organ thats played in the background. In the second verse it plays a little bit more but it's never really too much. Makes everything sound fuller and more colourful.
Unthought Known - Not really a fan of the piano here.
Speed Of Sound - :gomez:

Force Of Nature - The piano makes the song better.
The End - See above.

Conclusion: I don't really know what to think about BOB's ideas. (I just assume that it's all BOB. :lol:

) Sometimes they make the songs richer and sometimes they almost ruin them.

Author:	stip [ Fri December 28, 2012 4:04 pm ]
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old thread archived here listen to the album and share your thoughts

Author:	Mike [ Sun September 01, 2013 6:38 pm ]
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I'm doing this right now and it's way better than I remembered. Maybe reading and talking more about it than listening to it influenced my opinion a little bit. Amongst The Waves just finished playing and it was surprisingly enjoyable. Maybe thinking about it as an attempt at a new soaring anthem made me think less of it. I really like the instrumentation in the verses and even though the chorus isn't the strongest I somehow came around to it. [Ed Mode] The Chorus is kind of...ehm..like..you know... floating on a wave...all relaxed.[/Ed Mode] I don't think they wanted this song to be "huge". Oh no, Supersonic is starting. That song really ruins the mood.

Author:	harmless [ Sun September 01, 2013 6:41 pm ]
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I don't feel right about posting my negative feelings on this album again. But Mike, you're totally right about ATW. This album is a consistently enjoyable listen apart from Supersonic. Johnny Guitar and The End are the most fully-realised pieces of awesomeness, I think.

Author:	Mike [ Sun September 01, 2013 6:44 pm ]
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harmless wrote: I don't feel right about posting my negative feelings on this album again. But Mike, you're totally right about ATW. This album is a consistently enjoyable listen apart from Supersonic. Johnny Guitar and The End are the most fully-realised pieces of awesomeness, I think. Force Of Nature is starting. Fuck the haters, that song is awesome. Yeah, the intro is cheesy as fuck and the riff isn't the most inspired piece of art but Ed totally makes this song. And the piano is a nice touch.

Author:	harmless [ Sun September 01, 2013 6:46 pm ]
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Mike wrote: harmless wrote: I don't feel right about posting my negative feelings on this album again. But Mike, you're totally right about ATW. This album is a consistently enjoyable listen apart from Supersonic. Johnny Guitar and The End are the most fully-realised pieces of awesomeness, I think. Force Of Nature is starting. Fuck the haters, that song is awesome. Yeah, the intro is cheesy as fuck and the riff isn't the most inspired piece of art but Ed totally makes this song. And the piano is a nice touch. I like the piano in the second verse, yeah. The riff, the chords, the melody, are all fairly uninspired but it's all... nice enough. It works to put you in a good mood. I feel as if SOS is so ridiculously busy that it's very easy to mock, but it's good. I think it would've sat better in a more experimental pop album.

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Author:	Mike [ Sun September 01, 2013 6:51 pm ]
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harmless wrote: Mike wrote: harmless wrote: I don't feel right about posting my negative feelings on this album again. But Mike, you're totally right about ATW. This album is a consistently enjoyable listen apart from Supersonic. Johnny Guitar and The End are the most fully-realised pieces of awesomeness, I think. Force Of Nature is starting. Fuck the haters, that song is awesome. Yeah, the intro is cheesy as fuck and the riff isn't the most inspired piece of art but Ed totally makes this song. And the piano is a nice touch. I like the piano in the second verse, yeah. The riff, the chords, the melody, are all fairly uninspired but it's all... nice enough. It works to put you in a good mood. I feel as if SOS is so ridiculously busy that it's very easy to mock, but it's good. I think it would've sat better in a more experimental pop album. Yeah, SOS is way too busy and it almost ruins the song. The base of the song is pretty awesome but the studio version ends up being mediocre. What instruments are being played on The End? Strings and horn?

Author:	VinylGuy [ Sun September 01, 2013 6:52 pm ]
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SOS is wonderful my friends....im happy we got the full band version.

Author:	Dr. Van Nostrand [ Sun September 01, 2013 7:01 pm ]
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Mike wrote: harmless wrote: I don't feel right about posting my negative feelings on this album again. But Mike, you're totally right about ATW. This album is a consistently enjoyable listen apart from Supersonic. Johnny Guitar and The End are the most fully-realised pieces of awesomeness, I think. Force Of Nature is starting. Fuck the haters, that song is awesome. Yeah, the intro is cheesy as fuck and the riff isn't the most inspired piece of art but Ed totally makes this song. And the piano is a nice touch. Best song on the album, i love it

Author:	warehouse [ Sun September 01, 2013 7:04 pm ]
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no thanks

Author:	Mike [ Sun September 01, 2013 7:11 pm ]
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harmless wrote: I think the Orchestration on The End works, actually. Hopefully the stuff all over FD will be more The End and less SOS. Yep, I agree. Thoughts on the instrumentation on Backspacer that might be BOB's fault/idea: The Fixer - I'm not really sure what instruments are being played here next to the main ones but I like whatever I'm hearing. Piano/Keyboard? Just Breathe - The flute (or is it flute-like sounds on a keyboard? ) in the verses are nice. The chorus is too over the top. Amongst The Waves - I like the keyboard/organ thats played in the background. In the second verse it plays a little bit more but it's never really too much. Makes everything sound fuller and more colourful. Unthought Known - Not really a fan of the piano here. Speed Of Sound - Force Of Nature - The piano makes the song better. The End - See above. Conclusion: I don't really know what to think about BOB's ideas. (I just assume that it's all BOB. ) Sometimes they make the songs richer and sometimes they almost ruin them.

Author:	philpritchard [ Sun September 01, 2013 7:13 pm ]
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Johnny Guitar, Force of Nature and The End are the high points on this one for me. There's not much that I dislike, but there's also not much that I'm a huge fan of.

Author:	Release_Me [ Sun September 01, 2013 7:14 pm ]
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Dr. Van Nostrand wrote: Mike wrote: harmless wrote: I don't feel right about posting my negative feelings on this album again. But Mike, you're totally right about ATW. This album is a consistently enjoyable listen apart from Supersonic. Johnny Guitar and The End are the most fully-realised pieces of awesomeness, I think. Force Of Nature is starting. Fuck the haters, that song is awesome. Yeah, the intro is cheesy as fuck and the riff isn't the most inspired piece of art but Ed totally makes this song. And the piano is a nice touch. Best song on the album, i love it This.

Author:	harmless [ Sun September 01, 2013 7:16 pm ]
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Mike wrote: harmless wrote: I think the Orchestration on The End works, actually. Hopefully the stuff all over FD will be more The End and less SOS. Yep, I agree. Thoughts on the instrumentation on Backspacer that might be BOB's fault/idea: The Fixer - I'm not really sure what instruments are being played here next to the main ones but I like whatever I'm hearing. Piano/Keyboard? Just Breathe - The flute (or is it flute-like sounds on a keyboard? ) in the verses are nice. The chorus is too over the top. Amongst The Waves - I like the keyboard/organ thats played in the background. In the second verse it plays a little bit more but it's never really too much. Makes everything sound fuller and more colourful. Unthought Known - Not really a fan of the piano here. Speed Of Sound - Force Of Nature - The piano makes the song better. The End - See above. Conclusion: I don't really know what to think about BOB's ideas. (I just assume that it's all BOB. ) Sometimes they make the songs richer and sometimes they almost ruin them. Agree with all these, I think. And you've just reminded me how much he actually added. I keep reverting to the two songs we knew he had a hand in arranging (Just Breathe and SOS) but there's a lot more. The piano in Unthought Known spoils a really enjoyable song up to that point.

Author:	stupidmop [ Sun September 01, 2013 7:40 pm ]
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You can't make me!

Author:	Mike [ Sun September 01, 2013 9:15 pm ]
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"Supersonic" is like "Mankind" [from 1996's "No Code"] on steroids. Yeah, that's probably not too crazily far off. I wrote the riffs. The verses are what I wrote last. The original arrangement was overly complex. When I first heard Ed start singing it, I thought it had this Ramones or Springsteen thing going on. It feels very New York. http://www.billboard.com/articles/news/ ... page=0%2C4 Now I want to hear the original arrangement.

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Author:	harmless [ Sun September 01, 2013 9:23 pm ]
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That whole interview is a highly uncomfortable read.

Author:	stupidmop [ Sun September 01, 2013 9:46 pm ]
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I love, LOVE the fact that seemingly the entire band thought the fixer was about ed fixing other peoples songs, and ed finding out via interviewer. Fucking hilarious. Gives you an idea about both how they feel about it, and about eds character, that they think he'd be so forward as to actually write a song about 'fixing' everyone else's songs.