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Post subject: Re: 11th album rumors and speculation
Posted: Sat March 23, 2019 4:07 pm
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You could say Neil Young and Crazy Horse, possibly Springsteen and the E Street Band, Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers...but I don’t think the albums I would list would be “generally considered” great albums.
Post subject: Re: 11th album rumors and speculation
Posted: Sat March 23, 2019 4:27 pm
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LoathedVermin72 wrote:
Brett wrote:
It's not like Pearl Jam even came close, though. Their last great album came out 12 years after they formed, 11 after their debut.
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Post subject: Re: 11th album rumors and speculation
Posted: Sat March 23, 2019 4:29 pm
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liebzz wrote:
You could say Neil Young and Crazy Horse, possibly Springsteen and the E Street Band, Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers...but I don’t think the albums I would list would be “generally considered” great albums.
I guess I don't really consider them bands in the same way as Pearl Jam. It's more like a solo artist with a band.
Post subject: Re: 11th album rumors and speculation
Posted: Sat March 23, 2019 11:24 pm
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contamination wrote:
liebzz wrote:
You could say Neil Young and Crazy Horse, possibly Springsteen and the E Street Band, Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers...but I don’t think the albums I would list would be “generally considered” great albums.
I guess I don't really consider them bands in the same way as Pearl Jam. It's more like a solo artist with a band.
Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers is absolutely a band.
Post subject: Re: 11th album rumors and speculation
Posted: Sun March 24, 2019 12:33 am
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Yeah, those kinds of things are on a case-by-case basis. Someone like Neil Young probably can't be compared to a band, as he can hopscotch from group to group with ease. But someone like Tom Petty or Nick Cave, who routinely work with the same band and that band has a role in songwriting and/or arrangements? I think that's a fair comparison. And Cave's made some of his best work recently.
Post subject: Re: 11th album rumors and speculation
Posted: Sun March 24, 2019 1:15 am
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digster wrote:
Yeah, those kinds of things are on a case-by-case basis. Someone like Neil Young probably can't be compared to a band, as he can hopscotch from group to group with ease. But someone like Tom Petty or Nick Cave, who routinely work with the same band and that band has a role in songwriting and/or arrangements? I think that's a fair comparison. And Cave's made some of his best work recently.
Yeah, but at the same time The Bad Seeds are different guys than when they started. Its not the same.
What are some examples of a rock band making a great record after being together 25+ years?
The real answer to this question is: nobody.
I love Radiohead, but Moon Shaped Pool is very good/solid not truly great.
Petty and Springsteen and Neil are a different bird. Heartbreakers, E Street and Crazy Horse all no doubt contributed to the greatness, but each guy came in and out of that dynamic when it pleased them.
There's no real apples to apples comparison here.
Lots of bands making some nice records after 25 years (return to form), but no one actually making a no doubt, almost everyone agrees "great" record.
If Pearl Jam puts out something as good as Steel Wheels at this point, that would be the comparison.
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