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 Post subject: Post-Riot Act Moneygrab
PostPosted: Tue November 05, 2013 3:54 am 
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The band reached a pinnacle in their belief that their own artistic expression was critically important following the release of Riot Act and subsequent tour. The bulk of 2004 and 2005 was their internal realization that they really weren't going to make a difference, and decided to solely focus on making money.
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Hence the self-titled re-branding with an image of an avocado.

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 Post subject: Re: Post-Riot Act Moneygrab
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I think this band sold out by partnering with Target. I also think they betrayed their fans by giving into Ticketmaster, and starting to make music videos again. It's like they used to be cool but then they got all old and stopped caring about all the things that made them cool.


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Was this about the same time that Foo Fighters were killing it (sales/gig wise)?


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I just don't like how they don't make music as well as they used to.


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 Post subject: Re: Post-Riot Act Moneygrab
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LetMeSleep wrote:
Was this about the same time that Foo Fighters were killing it (sales/gig wise)?


When I get sad about what Pearl Jam has become, I just remind myself that at least they'll always be better than Foo Fighters.

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What's so annoying is FF did a much better doco.


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Lament wrote:
LetMeSleep wrote:
Was this about the same time that Foo Fighters were killing it (sales/gig wise)?


When I get sad about what Pearl Jam has become, I just remind myself that at least they'll always be better than Foo Fighters.


Are we at the last "becoming" of Pearl Jam? Or are there more stages to come?


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Leatherhead wrote:
Lament wrote:
LetMeSleep wrote:
Was this about the same time that Foo Fighters were killing it (sales/gig wise)?


When I get sad about what Pearl Jam has become, I just remind myself that at least they'll always be better than Foo Fighters.


Are we at the last "becoming" of Pearl Jam? Or are there more stages to come?


I know I personally feel like it's probably cruise control from here on out. Some albums will be better than others, but I don't know that I think we'll ever see them put out another great album. I'm just hoping for a few great songs here and there. I don't think it gets lower than Backspacer, but I also don't know that it will necessarily ever be better than Lightning Bolt (which I currently think is just very ok). But hopefully it stays closer to the latter than the former.

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 Post subject: Re: Post-Riot Act Moneygrab
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I'm hoping they just stop with all the extra bullshit, record some music by THEMSELVES, and then release it. But perhaps that wouldn't grab much money.


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Leatherhead wrote:
I'm hoping they just stop with all the extra bullshit, record some music by THEMSELVES, and then release it. But perhaps that wouldn't grab much money.

This. And most of their income would be from touring and publishing now days.


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How much money did the Summer Line of clothing on the Ten Club site bring in? Should we expect the Winter Line to bring in more because of the holidays?

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LetMeSleep wrote:
Leatherhead wrote:
I'm hoping they just stop with all the extra bullshit, record some music by THEMSELVES, and then release it. But perhaps that wouldn't grab much money.

This. And most of their income would be from touring and publishing now days.


Well touring is cool, but what do you mean by publishing?


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Lament wrote:
How much money did the Summer Line of clothing on the Ten Club site bring in? Should we expect the Winter Line to bring in more because of the holidays?

I wore the zombie shirt from a few years back yesterday and my boy pointed each one saying there's a daddy etc until he got to Ed who was a Mumma. I laughed till I realised they had more of my money. :(


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Leatherhead wrote:
LetMeSleep wrote:
Leatherhead wrote:
I'm hoping they just stop with all the extra bullshit, record some music by THEMSELVES, and then release it. But perhaps that wouldn't grab much money.

This. And most of their income would be from touring and publishing now days.


Well touring is cool, but what do you mean by publishing?

Song publishing rights.


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LetMeSleep wrote:
Lament wrote:
How much money did the Summer Line of clothing on the Ten Club site bring in? Should we expect the Winter Line to bring in more because of the holidays?

I wore the zombie shirt from a few years back yesterday and my boy pointed each one saying there's a daddy etc until he got to Ed who was a Mumma. I laughed till I realised they had more of my money. :(


I find nothing wrong with T-shirts, I like em.


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LetMeSleep wrote:
I wore the zombie shirt from a few years back yesterday and my boy pointed each one saying there's a daddy etc until he got to Ed who was a Mumma. I laughed till I realised they had more of my money. :(


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That's pretty funny.

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I find nothing wrong with T-shirts, I like em.


T-shirts are cool. I have a few, and still wear one or two of them from time to time. But I'll always make fun of them for calling it a "Summer Line" and a "Winter Line." Like they're the Gap or something.

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hlniv wrote:
The bulk of 2004 and 2005 was their internal realization that they really weren't going to make a difference, and decided to solely focus on making money. Hence the self-titled re-branding with an image of an avocado.


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hlniv wrote:
The band reached a pinnacle in their belief that their own artistic expression was critically important following the release of Yield and subsequent tour.


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