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 Post subject: Re: Lets Actually Listen to the Album: Vitalogy
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Maybe the greatest rock album of all time

very likely my favorite PJ album but come on man


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I never considered Falling Down to be a Vitalogy outtake/b-side.

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tragabigzanda wrote:
stip wrote:

Maybe the greatest rock album of all time

very likely my favorite PJ album but come on man


ill die on that hill. maybe not convinced i am right but happy to defend it

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 Post subject: Re: Lets Actually Listen to the Album: Vitalogy
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wease wrote:
I never considered Falling Down to be a Vitalogy outtake/b-side.

Oh, I do because they played it at Red Rocks in ‘95.


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 Post subject: Re: Lets Actually Listen to the Album: Vitalogy
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stip wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:
stip wrote:

Maybe the greatest rock album of all time

very likely my favorite PJ album but come on man


ill die on that hill. maybe not convinced i am right but happy to defend it

I am pretty sure its in the hypothetical top 10 of my favorite albums.


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wease wrote:
I never considered Falling Down to be a Vitalogy outtake/b-side.
I wonder if Fallen from the Yield sessions is actually Falling Down.

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stip wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:
stip wrote:

Maybe the greatest rock album of all time

very likely my favorite PJ album but come on man


ill die on that hill. maybe not convinced i am right but happy to defend it


Greatest band of all time for sure.


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liebzz wrote:
wease wrote:
I never considered Falling Down to be a Vitalogy outtake/b-side.

Oh, I do because they played it at Red Rocks in ‘95.

Hypnosomnia wrote:
I wonder if Fallen from the Yield sessions is actually Falling Down.



I would say that an outtake is really only an outtake if there's a studio recording of it that was done contemporaneously with an album's actual recording session. I don't know if one exists during the Vitalogy era. Perhaps one day we will find out. I do agree with Hypno, in that I have always wondered the same.

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oneway23 wrote:
liebzz wrote:
wease wrote:
I never considered Falling Down to be a Vitalogy outtake/b-side.

Oh, I do because they played it at Red Rocks in ‘95.

Hypnosomnia wrote:
I wonder if Fallen from the Yield sessions is actually Falling Down.



I would say that an outtake is really only an outtake if there's a studio recording of it that was done contemporaneously with an album's actual recording session. I don't know if one exists during the Vitalogy era. Perhaps one day we will find out. I do agree with Hypno, in that I have always wondered the same.

I hope we get a studio cut, if not a demo of it one day. I do think the music for it ended up on a rockford's albums. at least i remember someone posting the clip of it somewhere on the board.

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I hope we get a studio cut, if not a demo of it one day. I do think the music for it ended up on a rockford's albums. at least i remember someone posting the clip of it somewhere on the board.


Interesting...I do own that first Rockfords album. I don't recall the music for Falling Down being on there, though it definitely could be. I haven't listened to that record much beyond the first couple of months after it came out. Maybe I'll go back and give it a whirl sometime.

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oneway23 wrote:
dad wrote:
I hope we get a studio cut, if not a demo of it one day. I do think the music for it ended up on a rockford's albums. at least i remember someone posting the clip of it somewhere on the board.


Interesting...I do own that first Rockfords album. I don't recall the music for Falling Down being on there, though it definitely could be. I haven't listened to that record much beyond the first couple of months after it came out. Maybe I'll go back and give it a whirl sometime.



The main verse riff is there. Song changed a bit but this is the one


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Strat wrote:
oneway23 wrote:
dad wrote:
I hope we get a studio cut, if not a demo of it one day. I do think the music for it ended up on a rockford's albums. at least i remember someone posting the clip of it somewhere on the board.


Interesting...I do own that first Rockfords album. I don't recall the music for Falling Down being on there, though it definitely could be. I haven't listened to that record much beyond the first couple of months after it came out. Maybe I'll go back and give it a whirl sometime.



The main verse riff is there. Song changed a bit but this is the one

good looking out.

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dad wrote:
Strat wrote:
oneway23 wrote:
dad wrote:
I hope we get a studio cut, if not a demo of it one day. I do think the music for it ended up on a rockford's albums. at least i remember someone posting the clip of it somewhere on the board.


Interesting...I do own that first Rockfords album. I don't recall the music for Falling Down being on there, though it definitely could be. I haven't listened to that record much beyond the first couple of months after it came out. Maybe I'll go back and give it a whirl sometime.

The main verse riff is there. Song changed a bit but this is the one

good looking out.


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 Post subject: Re: Lets Actually Listen to the Album: Vitalogy
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Live tracks seem anticlimactic, mostly because they are from the end of the prior era, and really because only 8 of them are available on Spotify. The songs themselves are great though. Oceans, Sonic Reducer with Mark Arm, and Once sound really fantastic on them though (this is the Live at the Orpheum show).


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Revisited this gem on my walk this morning. It's still my favorite PJ album. So many cool little details and nuggets to hear. Was delighted to experience it once again.


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 Post subject: Re: Lets Actually Listen to the Album: Vitalogy
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I was in high school when Vitalogy came out and starting college when No Code was released. These are really the top two for me, and sometimes I wonder if the context of both the time in my life, as well as whether I inflated their value faced with the people around me pushing me to defend the band when they should have just made another Ten, pushed me here, or if they really are the two I independently gravitate to because of how much I enjoy the music. I mean, surely the latter now, but I can remember nearly 30 years ago being an agitated 16-18 year old defending the merits of the band, and demanding that these two were better than Ten and Vs.


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Vitalogy has held up for me remarkably well over the years. It's such a unique into a particular headspace: Both the lead singer and his band were shouldering an enormous amount of pressure, had opted into a hellacious touring cycle, while simultaneously the "scene" that birthed them was crumbling about as fast as it had seemed to explode. The production does a fantastic job of preserving the music, because it's an unadorned, straightforward capture of who and what they were at the time.

No Code has not failed as well, in my estimation, and this is primarily because of Ed's lyrics (though not his singing, which sounds lovely). Where Vitalogy was a record of a normal man falling apart under the weight of celebrity, No Code often feels like the record of a celebrity trying to pretend he's still a normal man.


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tragabigzanda wrote:

Where Vitalogy was a record of a normal man falling apart under the weight of celebrity, No Code often feels like the record of a celebrity trying to pretend he's still a normal man.


I do not necessarily disagree with this but I think both have held up great. PJs two best albums and I still give No code the edge. It's more flawed, but I reach for it more than any other and thoroughly enjoy every listen. (took me a couple of years where I still listened to it alot to appreciate it's greatness though)


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Alright blasting this one , vinyl...

Again, they change the sound so much!! PJ used to do this with pretty much every album what happened to that....this ons is as dry, almost like a chainsaw dry, very heavy, very direct....is this Fugazi's Pearl Jam? kinda yeah

Last Exit daaaamn this is a different band that they one we left off with Indifference

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