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Overall, I guess it depends on what the intentions are. I know Lost Dogs is a collection of b-sides and odds n' ends, but I think it skews closer to trying to an album experience than something like The Beatles Anthology. In that respect, I view it like Tom Waits' "Orphans", and I'm pretty sure he worked relatively extensively on that to get it work as an album.
Maybe it comes down to expectations.
Kind of like what we were talking about in the Riot Act thread. Maybe I just expected it to be naked, and that was never the intention. Either way, it's a great listen. Just not what I was expecting/wanting at the time. Doesn't mean it isn't good.
Post subject: Re: Lost Dogs: Official Album Thread
Posted: Sun January 06, 2013 3:49 am
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durdencommatyler wrote:
digster wrote:
Overall, I guess it depends on what the intentions are. I know Lost Dogs is a collection of b-sides and odds n' ends, but I think it skews closer to trying to an album experience than something like The Beatles Anthology. In that respect, I view it like Tom Waits' "Orphans", and I'm pretty sure he worked relatively extensively on that to get it work as an album.
Maybe it comes down to expectations.
Kind of like what we were talking about in the Riot Act thread. Maybe I just expected it to be naked, and that was never the intention. Either way, it's a great listen. Just not what I was expecting/wanting at the time. Doesn't mean it isn't good.
Yeah, I will admittedly be pretty disappointed if we never see something like Tracks by Springsteen, or at least some sort of collection of unreleased songs/demos from PJ. They're not necessarily marketable in the way Lost Dogs or Orphans might be, but they're really fascinated for hardcore fans. Often re-releases would be a great space for that, but we haven't really seen that with Ten, Vs. or Vitalogy.
Overall, I guess it depends on what the intentions are. I know Lost Dogs is a collection of b-sides and odds n' ends, but I think it skews closer to trying to an album experience than something like The Beatles Anthology. In that respect, I view it like Tom Waits' "Orphans", and I'm pretty sure he worked relatively extensively on that to get it work as an album.
Maybe it comes down to expectations.
Kind of like what we were talking about in the Riot Act thread. Maybe I just expected it to be naked, and that was never the intention. Either way, it's a great listen. Just not what I was expecting/wanting at the time. Doesn't mean it isn't good.
Yeah, I will admittedly be pretty disappointed if we never see something like Tracks by Springsteen, or at least some sort of collection of unreleased songs/demos from PJ. They're not necessarily marketable in the way Lost Dogs or Orphans might be, but they're really fascinated for hardcore fans. Often re-releases would be a great space for that, but we haven't really seen that with Ten, Vs. or Vitalogy.
I'm really hoping that any kind of No Code/Yield reissue or box set would be rich in this kind of thing. There has to be stuff out there.
Post subject: Re: Lost Dogs: Official Album Thread
Posted: Sun January 06, 2013 4:38 am
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durdencommatyler wrote:
digster wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:
digster wrote:
Overall, I guess it depends on what the intentions are. I know Lost Dogs is a collection of b-sides and odds n' ends, but I think it skews closer to trying to an album experience than something like The Beatles Anthology. In that respect, I view it like Tom Waits' "Orphans", and I'm pretty sure he worked relatively extensively on that to get it work as an album.
Maybe it comes down to expectations.
Kind of like what we were talking about in the Riot Act thread. Maybe I just expected it to be naked, and that was never the intention. Either way, it's a great listen. Just not what I was expecting/wanting at the time. Doesn't mean it isn't good.
Yeah, I will admittedly be pretty disappointed if we never see something like Tracks by Springsteen, or at least some sort of collection of unreleased songs/demos from PJ. They're not necessarily marketable in the way Lost Dogs or Orphans might be, but they're really fascinated for hardcore fans. Often re-releases would be a great space for that, but we haven't really seen that with Ten, Vs. or Vitalogy.
I'm really hoping that any kind of No Code/Yield reissue or box set would be rich in this kind of thing. There has to be stuff out there.
I will be so happy if there are a decent number of unreleased songs from jacks time in the band, by far my favorite period for them
Post subject: Re: Lost Dogs: Official Album Thread
Posted: Sun January 06, 2013 5:14 am
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Stip wrote:
do you like the 'redone' binaural outtakes more than the originals?
Also, I think we were largely discussing whether or not this was a good idea on the songs we had never heard before, not the established b-sides.
My mistake, I didn't read far enough back in the thread.
I don't know that I remember the original Binaural outtakes. I remember having a CDR with "Education," "Fatal," and "Letter to the Dead" on it, but I don't remember being especially thrown by the Lost Dogs versions. How different are they?
Post subject: Re: Lost Dogs: Official Album Thread
Posted: Sun January 06, 2013 12:12 pm
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a bit. Nothing quite as striking as alone or hold on, but there's only 4-5 years rather than 12 separating the recordings so the vocals aren't that much different.
Post subject: Re: Lost Dogs: Official Album Thread
Posted: Sun January 06, 2013 12:55 pm
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Stip wrote:
a bit. Nothing quite as striking as alone or hold on, but there's only 4-5 years rather than 12 separating the recordings so the vocals aren't that much different.
They didn't do any re-recording on the "Binaural" stuff. Just a new mix on some tracks.
Post subject: Re: Lost Dogs: Official Album Thread
Posted: Sun January 06, 2013 10:03 pm
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Dr. Van Nostrand wrote:
Birds in Hell wrote:
I, uh, kind of like Sweet Lew.
Especially the early version on that leaked demo disc.
Im not sure if ive ever heard any version but the LD version, is it much different?
It's just a different (earlier, I think) take than what's on Lost Dogs.
It's just bass, drums, Jeff's vocal and what sounds to me like a heavily-reverbed droning electric guitar. It's sparser than the Lost Dogs version, which has some more obvious guitar work.
Post subject: Re: Lost Dogs: Official Album Thread
Posted: Mon January 07, 2013 1:50 am
jeeeesus relax already
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Its a really good compilation record, most of the stuff there is really good, i remember thinking how cool the b sides wewe and how some outtakes were better than the final tracklists. Its been a while since i listened to this one, though.
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