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1. keeping time with sixteenth-notes is a really basic drumming skill

2. when did this become about Dave A

I think six songs were recorded from the Chop Suey session, as I remember that 1 song was unreleased as per articles (and it was You Are).
I might have read it here back in the day: https://www.fivehorizons.com/tour/cc/t2002.shtml

Apart from the video upscale, Save You is also uncensored now.
I have extracted the audio from the YouTube videos, it makes a nice 6 song EP.

I really enjoyed the release of these vids this weekend. Brings back the memories of '03 for sure. Was in Mansfield for all three shows, including the early acoustic set.

if you think matt's work on you are is a really basic drumming skill you don't know anything.

I said Matt's fills specifically, which are constantly (but not always) basic af; if you think one nitpick of a single aspect of his drumming style that annoys me is a blanket character assassination, I don't know what to tell you

I agree that Matt's fills are "robotic" but "robotic" works for the song

well, everyone thought Dance Of Clairvoyants had a drum machine....but i feel thats a very high point for a drummer. He is great at keeping everything together.

good at keeping everything together is true, yep

"works for the song" is also true, Jorge; it's a million times less annoying here than it is in some other songs

e.g. "Alive", which is more or less the same tempo and has so much opportunity for interesting pauses, accents, backbeats, and these straight gunshot fills make it sound so bland

I know everyone here hates "Amongst The Waves" but Matt's performance on it has the kind of funk I wish he'd apply to Alive

we're still due for a vault release this year. maybe they will announce it in the december newsletter. i wouldn't be mad if these chop suey vids are a run-up to them releasing one of those Showbox shows before the Riot Act tour officially kicked off or a Vote for Change show.

still holding out hope for a No Code tour show, but I will take one of the aforementioned for sure.

yeah, i remember those, one of them is the Live At The Showbox dvd right?

Thats an amazing show.

My recollection is that it was 2 shows at the Showbox and 2 at Key Arena.

Looked it up

12/5/02 Showbox

Can’t Keep, Save You, Get Right, Green Disease, Grievance, Cropduster, I Am Mine, Love Boat Captain, Half Full, Nothing As It Seems, You Are, Given to Fly, Insignificance, Blood

Encore: Last Kiss, Wishlist, Black, Down, Do the Evolution

Encore 2: All or None

12/6/02 Live at the Showbox

Small Town, Off He Goes, Thumbing My Way, Thin Air,
Breakerfall, Green Disease, Corduroy, Save You, Ghost, Cropduster, I Am Mine, Love Boat Captain, Gods Dice, Half Full, Daughter/War, You Are, Rearviewmirror

Encore: Bushleaguer, Insignificance, Better Man, Do the Evolution, Yellow Ledbetter

Encore 2: Soon Forget, Don’t Believe in Christmas

yeah, they had two at the key arena too. They were also pretty cool but the Showbox ones were warm ups.

yep, that 12/6 show was the DVD.

12/8 Key Arena

Small Town, Black, Thumbing My Way, Nothing As It Seems, Given to Fly, Save You, Hail Hail, Ghost, Corduroy, Grievance, Green Disease, I Am Mine, Love Boat Captain, You Are, Half Full, Even Flow, Wishlist, Blood

Encore: Gimme Some Truth, Bushleaguer, Insignificance, Down, Better Man, Do the Evolution

Encore 2: Yellow Ledbetter


12/9 Key Arena

Release, Breakerfall, Save You, Gods Dice, Cropduster, Green Disease, Lukin, Not For You, Black, I Am Mine, Love Boat Captain, Daughter, Even Flow, Thumbing My Way, Light Years, You Are, Insignificance, Rearviewmirror

Encore: Last Exit, Brain of J, Bushleaguer, I Got Id, Small Town, Do the Evolution

Encore 2: Yellow Ledbetter, Don’t Believe in Christmas

Isn't this year's Vault the show from The Vic? I seem to recall giving them money for it a half year or so back.

Yes, announced in May.



*checks date*

ah, i forgot they wasted our time with another one we've already had.

Third year in a row.

Atlanta was 11. They're probably done, and they'll just keep cycling through those 11.