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Post subject: Re: Pearl Jam Twenty: Official Album Thread
Posted: Thu October 06, 2016 5:21 pm
NEVER STOP JAMMING!
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Kevin Davis wrote:
Fuzzcharger wrote:
It reminded me of The Kids Are Alright for its patch work approach to sequencing I just wish PJ20 had more definitive versions of song like TKAA does.
I imagine it would feel more that way if we didn't already have a bajillion live versions of each song. I think the official bootleg program has overall been an awesome thing, but I think something I've learned from it is that PJ doesn't really have "definitive" versions of most songs. Really most versions of their songs sound pretty much the same.
Yup.
I listened to the iTunes samples of the songs in this package, and it felt like plenty.
Post subject: Re: Pearl Jam Twenty: Official Album Thread
Posted: Sat November 25, 2023 4:07 pm
tl;dr
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Listening to this today for the first time in a while. An extremely weird curio in the PJ canon; in many ways I respect that they put out something so scrappy and decidedly non-definitive to commemorate this milestone event that was otherwise a gigantic hype circus.
I could be mistaken but I think this is a different (better) mix of the PJ10 “Crown of Thorns” than was used on the official boot. Sounds lovely. And I totally forgot this completely off-the-cuff “Let Me Sleep” from 2006 — a really great fly-on-the-wall moment.
Post subject: Re: Pearl Jam Twenty: Official Album Thread
Posted: Sat November 25, 2023 4:18 pm
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Hindsight is 20/20, and while there are some gems and cool insights scattered across the decade that began with Lost Dogs and ended with PJ20, it’s clear to me now that they embraced their own legacy much too early, and without enough objectivity.
The HOF circus began a full five years after PJ20, and at that point I felt — and still feel — that their resilience deserved some celebration. Kind of wish they’d otherwise skipped all the “looking back” stuff in favor of 1-2 more albums, and then used HOF to launch a PJ30 retrospective. I’m now at the age where I’m starting to have my own sense of nostalgia for things, and it’s disappointing that there’s no more juice to the PJ squeeze than these paltry 30th anniversary pressings we just got.
Post subject: Re: Pearl Jam Twenty: Official Album Thread
Posted: Sat November 25, 2023 5:37 pm
tl;dr
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Totally agree with all of that. I was only meaning to speak about this album purely as a collection of tracks, and enjoying the somewhat inspired scrap heap that it is as opposed to the much better thing that it could have been but isn’t.
I have to think there is more PJ could put out if they wanted to, and someday I hope they get some archivally-minded folks in their organization who have the heart and grit to corral all their partial show recordings and studio detritus into something fit for consumption, more than just the straight album reissues they’ve been doing (though to be fair, I appreciate that these anniversary reissues haven’t been fitted with some minimal bonus content that might tempt me to buy them; in a lot of ways I am thankful that they’ve put out a lot of easy passes). But for the most part, I’m really happy with everything we have from them, official and unofficial. Whenever I — as a super nostalgic/sentimental guy myself — come back to PJ after a long period away, I am always overwhelmed and delighted rather than disappointed by how much there is to choose from (and I say this completely aware of how much I’ve grumbled about their “vault” program over the years).
Post subject: Re: Pearl Jam Twenty: Official Album Thread
Posted: Sat November 25, 2023 10:16 pm
AnalLog
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Disc 1 is a great companion to the movie. Disc 2 is one big missed opportunity.. it should have collected more demos and rarities. I mean..'chinese'was in the movie ( or extras...) but not on the disc.
Post subject: Re: Pearl Jam Twenty: Official Album Thread
Posted: Mon November 27, 2023 4:48 am
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The movie was an exciting build up and fun to watch but it was pretty much one and done viewing unless I randomly came across it later. The book I read twice. It was an enjoyable, easy read. The text book presentation worked well for the photos but not so much for the written chapters. The PJ20 album I go back to frequently even if only for a handful of tracks. GTF acoustic inspired me to learn how to play the song and it’s a perfect blend of being fun and challenging but not too difficult for an intermediate guitar player.
Just as entertainment usually plays out for me in general, music > book > video.
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