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Lounge Lizard wrote:
harmless wrote:
So any progressive, intelligent believer with a faith that is anti-prejudice and concerned with social justice, is just a dickhead to you huh?
No, of course not. Intelligent people can be afraid too, it's perfectly understandable. There is certainly a percentage (albeit a small one) among professors and distinguished scientists who are still clinging on to some sort of religious faith. Doesn't make them worse at what they do, in most cases at least. I hope
I used to believe that, but the smartest and wisest person I ever knew (one of my grad school professors) was a devout believer, and that forced me to rethink this
I used to believe that, but the smartest and wisest person I ever knew (one of my grad school professors) was a devout believer, and that forced me to rethink this
Then you simply haven't met a wiser and smarter person. Yet.
Post subject: Re: Song of the Moment: Tremor Christ
Posted: Wed July 24, 2013 1:00 pm
A Return To Form
Joined: Sun January 20, 2013 4:22 pm Posts: 105
Well I was intrigued. From Celebrityathiest.com, surely a reliable source. Natalie Portman! Lance Armstrong! Eddie Vedder!
This is Janeane Garofalo. I'm interviewing Eddie Vedder and we're at Brendan's, on the Lower East Side.
JG: Can I ask what your feelings are about God?
EV: Sure. I think it's like a movie that was way too popular. It's a story that's been told too many times and just doesn't mean anything. Man lived on the planet -- [placing his fingers an inch apart], this is 5000 years of semi-recorded history. And God and the Bible, that came in somewhere around the middle, maybe 2000. This is the last 2000, this is what we're about to celebrate [indicating about an 1/8th of an inch with his fingers]. Now, humans, in some shape or form, have been on the earth for three million years [pointing across the room to indicate the distance]. So, all this time, from there [gesturing toward the other side of the room], to here [indicating the 1/8th of an inch], there was no God, there was no story, there was no myth and people lived on this planet and they wandered and they gathered and they did all these things. The planet was never threatened. How did they survive for all this time without this belief in God? I'd like to ask this to someone who knows about Christianity and maybe you do. That just seems funny to me.
JG: Funny ha-ha or funny strange?
EV: Funny strange. Funny bad. Funny frown. Not good. That laws are made and wars occur because of this story that was written, again, in this small part of time.
Which is a fairly typical Edesque ramble. But more to the point:
At a July 22, 1998 Pearl Jam concert in Seattle's Memorial Stadium, Vedder said about the unusually beautiful weather, "I would thank God, but I don't believe in it."
This has nothing to do with Tremor Christ but I was interested.
Post subject: Re: Song of the Moment: Tremor Christ
Posted: Wed July 24, 2013 1:44 pm
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Joined: Tue January 01, 2013 2:41 pm Posts: 17337
I'm really glad stip finally got to meet Lounge Lizard.
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Post subject: Re: Song of the Moment: Tremor Christ
Posted: Wed July 24, 2013 4:24 pm
Commissioner
Joined: Wed March 13, 2013 12:48 am Posts: 11792
I know I mentioned this in a previous thread that turned into a Tremor Christ discussion, but this is the song where I think Pearl Jam does their finest job of working their postpunk influences into something uniquely "Pearl Jam." I hear the early PiL albums, Wire, even some Joy Division in this track. Jeff's work is phenomenal on this. This is one of those songs you can break out when someone tries to tell you PJ is a dumb, unoriginal rock band. It's off-kilter and weird without self-consciously trying to be so. Such an amazing song.
I know I mentioned this in a previous thread that turned into a Tremor Christ discussion, but this is the song where I think Pearl Jam does their finest job of working their postpunk influences into something uniquely "Pearl Jam." I hear the early PiL albums, Wire, even some Joy Division in this track. Jeff's work is phenomenal on this. This is one of those songs you can break out when someone tries to tell you PJ is a dumb, unoriginal rock band. It's off-kilter and weird without self-consciously trying to be so. Such an amazing song.
Post subject: Re: Song of the Moment: Tremor Christ
Posted: Tue May 24, 2016 1:47 pm
Misplaced My Sponge
Joined: Tue January 01, 2013 9:52 pm Posts: 6275
evenslow wrote:
Lament wrote:
I know I mentioned this in a previous thread that turned into a Tremor Christ discussion, but this is the song where I think Pearl Jam does their finest job of working their postpunk influences into something uniquely "Pearl Jam." I hear the early PiL albums, Wire, even some Joy Division in this track. Jeff's work is phenomenal on this. This is one of those songs you can break out when someone tries to tell you PJ is a dumb, unoriginal rock band. It's off-kilter and weird without self-consciously trying to be so. Such an amazing song.
great way of putting it
Yup. It's easily one of my favorites by the band. I think it even makes my top 3.
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