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Best song on Into the Wild
Setting Forth 11%  11%  [ 7 ]
No Ceiling 10%  10%  [ 6 ]
Far Behind 7%  7%  [ 4 ]
Rise 11%  11%  [ 7 ]
Long Nights 7%  7%  [ 4 ]
Hard Sun 16%  16%  [ 10 ]
Society 21%  21%  [ 13 ]
The Wolf 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Tuolumne 2%  2%  [ 1 ]
End of the Road 2%  2%  [ 1 ]
Guaranteed 13%  13%  [ 8 ]
NO MORE!!!!!!!!! 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
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I'm amazed Ed hasn't done a solo album with other musicians yet. He could assemble an amazing band of either session guys or guests.


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Sure. But the fsct he did ITW all alone and it was his solo debut its still astonishing for me.

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Sure. But the fsct he did ITW all alone and it was his solo debut its still astonishing for me.

Oh yeah, for sure.


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stip wrote:
I think I like this album more than at least 3 pearl jam albums.

I do too (different albums though, I expect).


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Birds in Hell wrote:
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I think I like this album more than at least 3 pearl jam albums.

I do too (different albums though, I expect).

Me too.


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I don't think I've heard this CD since seeing movie. What a self obsessed, privileged lil shite.

Must break this out for another listen.


I've never seen the movie, but love the album. Plan to keep it that way.


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Damn. I love this album. I think it is still an absolutely fantastic album from start to finish. Perfect companion to the story itself. Scratch pad memories and fleeting thoughts, fleshed out introspective and celebratory covers, wonderful mood journey.


I disagree with the "start to finish." It's a perfectly tracked album, except the bonus tracks tacked on to the digital version totally sour the mood. Here's to the State and No More are good songs, but they are built on such a different vibe.


This is a dirty lie.


I'll admit it, these songs suck (especially No More). But the connection to Thomas Young made me want to withhold any overt criticism. But you've called me out, and I consider myself an honest man, so...


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I like this record, though at times it seems a little half-baked (though that may be due to the constraints Ed was under in terms of writing). I feel like it falls off somewhat after Hard Sun, and to me that song's the highlight of the record with a bullet.


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I have never once considered no more or heres to the state or whatever as part of into the wild. Ever.


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I don't even know those songs.


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Strat wrote:
I have never once considered no more or heres to the state or whatever as part of into the wild. Ever.

Nor have I. Even if they were thrown in as bonus tracks with the digital download, they're clearly not part of the album proper.

I don't think I've ever heard Here's to the State... and I'm in no rush to fix that.


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"Hard Sun" is good. "No Ceiling" is good. "Society" is good. The rest is whatever.

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Long Nights? That's a good 'un.


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Here's to the state is a perfectly fine song for what it is. Like here's to the state, no more is a genre exercise, but one that is an insipid failure


"Here's to the State" is fucking ridiculous -- it reminds me of a song that a high school kid would write about his teachers. I get that at some point protest music has to cut the crap and just come out and say what it means, but it's no surprise that when your composition favors message over artistry, the artistry suffers. The song makes Eddie sound the same way his political rants do -- like a simpleton with a chip on his shoulder.

Plus I have an unreasonable distaste for any songs that use phrases like "here's to..." or "this one goes out to..." or "this song's for..." in the lyrics.


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It's actually a modified cover of a Phil Ochs song, just with updated references. The lyrics are obvious. The melody is nice, and the chorus is really satisfying. It's an artifact of its time, but as a member of that songs target audience, it felt refreshing. Not profound or inspiring, but still enjoyable to hear. Live especially, since it felt shared, which is really important for a song like this. The studio version I've listened to maybe once.

The original is better

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Guaranteed, far behind, and rise are also very good.

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"Hard Sun" is good. "No Ceiling" is good. "Society" is good. The rest is whatever.

fucking long nights m8. best 1.

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no doubt this is my favourite post-riot act pj-related release. this is more an answer to riot act than avid cado is.

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I don't like "Guaranteed" or "Far Behind" at all. Especially "Guaranteed", which is a 20-second melody stretched out to song length. Don't know about "Long Nights". I'll listen again today

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stip wrote:
It's actually a modified cover of a Phil Ochs song, just with updated references. The lyrics are obvious. The melody is nice, and the chorus is really satisfying. It's an artifact of its time, but as a member of that songs target audience, it felt refreshing. Not profound or inspiring, but still enjoyable to hear. Live especially, since it felt shared, which is really important for a song like this. The studio version I've listened to maybe once.

The original is better


Maybe this is part of it. Unless I've misinterpreted your political leanings over the years, it doesn't seem like you -- someone who probably agrees with most of what the song says anyway -- really should be part of this song's target audience, even though it's obvious that you are. I get that the resistance needs fight songs and all that, but I can never escape the feeling that these kinds of songs are con jobs of sorts, using confrontational, inflammatory language to give the audience the illusion that they're participating in something vital and provocative, despite the fact that the singer is already reasonably sure that an overwhelming majority of his audience has pre-approved the message of the song. This song was the absolute low point of the show when I saw it live, its hollow "shared moment" feeling like a self-congratulatory applause grab no different from "made it to the ocean, smoked a joint in a tree."


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