Wed January 30, 2013 10:21 pm
stip wrote:mray10 wrote:stip wrote:durdencommatyler wrote:stip wrote:Got Some wrote:One of pearl jams finest albums. The last great brendon obrien/pearl jam album.
Obriens work on tracks like faithful/no way/all those yesterday's are sublime IMHO
faithful (and In Hiding) have always struck me as songs that sound half finished.
It's taken me a long time to sort of "get" (and I hate that word in this context) Yield. It didn't click with me until last year. But I never felt like any of the songs (save Red Dot) felt half finished. What about those songs makes you feel that way?
I'm sure I have probably articulated this on the old board somewhere better than I will here. Even though they have the rich sound that the rest of Yield does, there is something about them that always seemed thin--like they were waiting to layer the really good parts on. Other mid tempo songs like GTF (which I love) and No Way (which I don't) still found much fuller than these do.
As was pretty astutely observed in that other thread, this is really the point where PJ started writing more subdued anthems (in a lot of ways GTF is the last of that old guard--or at least the hinge between these two periods) and I started to lose some interest in them (post vitalogy there are really only 4 PJ anthems that I love, for a certain definition of anthem). But still, No Way is hardly an old fashioned PJ anthem and it still feels like there is just more going on there musically than these songs. I think I miss the layering in them that are in most of the other really good ones.
I am also don't really like the verses (or the main riff, to be honest) in In Hiding and Faithful has, after a very promising first verse, sometimes seems a little too ham fisted for my tastes. Also not a tremendous fan of how Eddie sounds on either of these songs.
I feel like I tend to agree with your opinions more than most other people on the board, but I don't get this at all.
Well, maybe just this tiny bit. The lyrics for In Hiding feel a little ... first draft to me. I like them well enough and I get the idea, but they're a bit awkward and it feels like it all doesn't come together very well. Still like the song quite a bit despite that, and musically I think that song is wonderful.
fair enough--this is just my own idiosyncratic tastes.
Wed January 30, 2013 10:25 pm
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Wed January 30, 2013 10:36 pm
digster wrote:I don't know, I love the little easter eggs in the arrangements of Yield...for example, until someone pointed it out on here, I had never really listened to Stone's line in the second chorus of GTF; it's so fucking cool. I think there's little stuff like that all over the record.
Thu January 31, 2013 2:50 am
digster wrote:I don't know, I love the little easter eggs in the arrangements of Yield...for example, until someone pointed it out on here, I had never really listened to Stone's line in the second chorus of GTF; it's so fucking cool. I think there's little stuff like that all over the record.
Thu January 31, 2013 3:08 am
stip wrote:digster wrote:I don't know, I love the little easter eggs in the arrangements of Yield...for example, until someone pointed it out on here, I had never really listened to Stone's line in the second chorus of GTF; it's so fucking cool. I think there's little stuff like that all over the record.
I just don't think there is enough of it in those two songs. I think the rest of the album is full of them. Even some of the songs I'm not crazy about like Lowlight I would never make that claim about.
Thu January 31, 2013 3:33 am
Thu January 31, 2013 3:44 am
Thu January 31, 2013 3:45 am
stip wrote:digster wrote:I don't know, I love the little easter eggs in the arrangements of Yield...for example, until someone pointed it out on here, I had never really listened to Stone's line in the second chorus of GTF; it's so fucking cool. I think there's little stuff like that all over the record.
I just don't think there is enough of it in those two songs. I think the rest of the album is full of them. Even some of the songs I'm not crazy about like Lowlight I would never make that claim about.
Thu January 31, 2013 3:49 am
Kevin Davis wrote:Guys, this album is going to be 15 years old in a few days.
Thu January 31, 2013 4:04 am
Dr. Van Nostrand wrote:stip wrote:digster wrote:I don't know, I love the little easter eggs in the arrangements of Yield...for example, until someone pointed it out on here, I had never really listened to Stone's line in the second chorus of GTF; it's so fucking cool. I think there's little stuff like that all over the record.
I just don't think there is enough of it in those two songs. I think the rest of the album is full of them. Even some of the songs I'm not crazy about like Lowlight I would never make that claim about.
Are you talking about not enough as in more production stuff should be added in or the guitar parts should be a little bit different from each other to give it a more full kinda sound?
Thu January 31, 2013 4:06 am
stip wrote:digster wrote:I don't know, I love the little easter eggs in the arrangements of Yield...for example, until someone pointed it out on here, I had never really listened to Stone's line in the second chorus of GTF; it's so fucking cool. I think there's little stuff like that all over the record.
I just don't think there is enough of it in those two songs. I think the rest of the album is full of them. Even some of the songs I'm not crazy about like Lowlight I would never make that claim about.
Thu January 31, 2013 4:53 am
digster wrote:I don't know, I love the little easter eggs in the arrangements of Yield...for example, until someone pointed it out on here, I had never really listened to Stone's line in the second chorus of GTF; it's so fucking cool. I think there's little stuff like that all over the record.
Thu January 31, 2013 5:16 am
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Thu January 31, 2013 3:03 pm
liebzz wrote:I just wanted to put a few little personal tidbits about this album into the conversation:
1) About halfway into Given to Fly, around where Ed sings "...strange spot in the sky, a human being that was given to fly" there's either a little mistake or added high pitched "wah". This sound is eerily similar to the last syllable in my name as my mother would call for my attention on something circa 1998. For years, whenever I heard this song with headphones, and that part of the song came up, I would whip my headphones off and listen expecting my mother to be telling me something.
2) If someone told me I had 15 seconds to convince them that Pearl Jam was the greatest band on the planet, I would play the bridge before the final chorus in Faithful.
3) Do the Evolution was so viscerally satisfying upon its release that my casual Pearl Jam fan friend immediately called it the best song the band ever wrote. This immediately lead me to hating the song for the first month until I too realized that it was among the best songs they ever wrote.
Thu January 31, 2013 3:20 pm
verb_to_trust wrote:I stole Yield sign in college....
That really says it all about how I feel about Yield.
Thu January 31, 2013 3:28 pm
verb_to_trust wrote:I stole Yield sign in college....
That really says it all about how I feel about Yield.
Thu January 31, 2013 4:18 pm