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 Post subject: Re: Eddie's anti gun rant during the the Mark Richards inter
PostPosted: Tue November 12, 2013 4:46 pm 
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These are :americaissues: so I could give a fuck, but this seems kinda dumb to me:
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Our government is pretty much broke.


You're allowing quite a bit of leeway in your "pretty much", right?



What's the US debt/GPP ratio? Seriously, look it up...

I think that having more debt than you make in a given year, is kinda the definition of broke. Do you disagree?

I have a mortgage on my home and a mortgage on my business premises, total debt certainly more than I make in a year, whether looking at either gross turnover or family taxable income. My Balance Sheet's still pretty sound though, and we aren't broke by any definition. Your economic theory looks a bit shoddy here, friend.


An individual and a country are not the same thing. Look up the term leverage... think about the negative consequences of leverage. Think about interest payments. Then consider the ability to print money by the US government. Once you do all of the above, apply that term to macroeconomics.

Having a public debt/GDP ratio above 100% (for an entire economy) is extremely high, and yes (that combined with all the aforementioned), in my opinion warrants the term - "pretty much broke".


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I'm glad you all took a full page of this thread to discuss a random google search image on "how to win" that popped up for me.

The entertainment in this place is amazing. Please... carry on.

ok, so you posted something you'd just as soon have ignored? because i think by now most other posters would be happy to accommodate you, and you need not bother searching for random pics either. just post your regular rants and we'll go ahead and ignore them for you. cool, brah?



Then go ahead, brohem. :wave:


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if Malice is off-put by his aggressiveness, well, then.....

yeah, --- is spot on in the association with littlewing

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 Post subject: Re: Eddie's anti gun rant during the the Mark Richards inter
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Why does everyone seem to hate IlluminEddie ?



Have you read just 1 of his posts?


yeah, i dont agree with most of them, but most of the responses here towards him were very agressive.



No worries. Several people in here seem like they are just a little more sad/bitter/depressed than usual. I suppose they can't speculate about a new album because LB was just released. So, venting frustration on different opinions towards a relatively new comer who shares opinions openly passes the time. Having a different opinion around here, sets you up for exchanges with the majority opinion like this. I know that, and I'm OK with it.


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 Post subject: Re: Eddie's anti gun rant during the the Mark Richards inter
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wtf.

trying to make sense of some of these posts.

big sweeping change is the hardest thing to pull off in government. im not "arguing" on the how it should be done. im making a point on that these kinds of program's work in other countries, your CURRENT government is trying to make some progress in making the USA a better place to live. (imho)

i mean holy fuk. every time someone tries to change a law for the better over there, some idiot brings up the one of your amendments and pokes holes in it or hides behind it.

basic healthcare for everyone? again im not arguing on how its been implemented, im on the side of the fence that this shit fuking works. its not going to be perfect, but holy shit it has to be better than what u have now.

im not even going to entertain the spying debate. read the topic.

getting back to ed. i %100 agree with the dude. imagine if tighter gun controls just even saved one kids life. WINNING

now the counter argument is that people need these guns for self defence. if this is actually true, well america has lost the battle with itself already.


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An individual and a country are not the same thing. Look up the term leverage... think about the negative consequences of leverage. Think about interest payments. Then consider the ability to print money by the US government. Once you do all of the above, apply that term to macroeconomics.

are you an economist or something


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IlluminEddie wrote:
Varis wrote:
These are :americaissues: so I could give a fuck, but this seems kinda dumb to me:
IlluminEddie wrote:
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Our government is pretty much broke.


You're allowing quite a bit of leeway in your "pretty much", right?



What's the US debt/GPP ratio? Seriously, look it up...

I think that having more debt than you make in a given year, is kinda the definition of broke. Do you disagree?

I have a mortgage on my home and a mortgage on my business premises, total debt certainly more than I make in a year, whether looking at either gross turnover or family taxable income. My Balance Sheet's still pretty sound though, and we aren't broke by any definition. Your economic theory looks a bit shoddy here, friend.


An individual and a country are not the same thing. Look up the term leverage... think about the negative consequences of leverage. Think about interest payments. Then consider the ability to print money by the US government. Once you do all of the above, apply that term to macroeconomics.

Having a public debt/GDP ratio above 100% (for an entire economy) is extremely high, and yes (that combined with all the aforementioned), in my opinion warrants the term - "pretty much broke".

Like I said, :americaproblems:. This map is interesting though, and I guess goes a way to proving your argument (not about broke, more about bad financial management). America is like the newly wed couple down the street who bought the biggest house they could afford and stocked up on flat screens, lounge suites and personal gym equipment using all the store and credit cards they could lay their hands on. And Canada's even worse! They look to have a serious case of 'keeping up with the joneses'.

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Looks like they should be asking "What would Putin do?". Something involving ripping his shirt off probably.


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Mexico. My goodness what a highly successful place.

Forget Mexico, I'm moving to Libya.


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Mexico. My goodness what a highly successful place.

Hey! My map makes as much sense as all the other posts in this thread!

I find that if you have to worry about things like 'context' and 'rational individual considerations' arguing on the internet becomes far too boring to keep my interest. I'm like my mother in that I like stereotyping - I find it saves me a lot of time.


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man we're really gonna be in trouble when someone comes by asking for their money back. oh waitImagenowtheyaredead.

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Didn't the drones all just get repossessed? I think China sent the guys from 'Operation Repo' around and took them all back...


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onawave wrote:
trying to make sense of some of these posts.

:haha:


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every time someone tries to change a law for the better over there, some idiot brings up the one of your amendments and pokes holes in it or hides behind it.


Exactly. Do you have any idea how hard I've tried to own slaves and stop womyn from voting while the government houses soldiers in my home?

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every time someone tries to change a law for the better over there, some idiot brings up the one of your amendments and pokes holes in it or hides behind it.


Consider the following picture:

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Ninety years before it was taken, there wasn't an America. And ninety years later, John Lennon was forming his first band.

It's still a pretty young country, which grew very fast and doesn't have a whole lot of significant identity yet (how could it?). Of course it's going to be slow to make changes that effect those very few elements that do help to define it.

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I can't believe this is 21 fucking pages.


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I can't believe this is 21 fucking pages.

Pretty impressive, eh?


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I can't believe this is 21 fucking pages.

Pretty impressive, eh?

It is, it's been pretty obvious to me that when ed supports something, he almost stubborn to the point of stupidity about it. He wrote a song called glorified G about 20 years ago about guns, so when he comes and says the things he says, I kinda shake my head and say " That's great Ed!"


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 Post subject: Re: Eddie's anti gun rant during the the Mark Richards inter
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In fairnesd though, people do keep asking him about shit. I can't blame him for voicing his opinions when asked. I would to most likely.

Of course as you point out we have the collective and reciprocal right to ignore him. I could give a shit about his opinions in the end.


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