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Author:  doug rr [ Thu October 10, 2013 2:49 am ]
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harmless wrote:
Lament wrote:
harmless, can a circumcised child rise from the ashes of Mother Love Bone?

WAIT...

Is it too much to ask that from now on a circumcised foreskin be referred to as "The ashes of his Mother Love Bone"?


I would support this.

I was circumcised for purely disability related reasons, and it's fairly common and much safer for many people prone to infection. This would've been my chat up line if I'd ever had a same sex encounter.


plus the embarrassment of someone having to pull lint out of their mouth

Author:  stip [ Thu October 10, 2013 2:51 am ]
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oh man, that's the worst.

Author:  C4lukin [ Thu October 10, 2013 2:51 am ]
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Lament wrote:
I don't know how I feel about this whole circumcision debate. Can someone explain it to me using only surfing and surfing-related metaphors? Thanks.



Infants do not have the choice of whether or not they are circumsized. It is like being pushed out to sea during a category 5 hurricane, yet you have not yet learned to swim. As 100 foot waves crash on your penis, you not only lose your foreskin, but also your ability to trust. If only your parents would allow you to grow older and choose for yourself. It would not be a crushing wave, but a gentle surf to a cut or uncut Utopia.

Author:  Lament [ Thu October 10, 2013 2:54 am ]
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harmless wrote:
Lament wrote:
harmless, can a circumcised child rise from the ashes of Mother Love Bone?

WAIT...

Is it too much to ask that from now on a circumcised foreskin be referred to as "The ashes of his Mother Love Bone"?


I would support this.

I was circumcised for purely disability related reasons, and it's fairly common and much safer for many people prone to infection. This would've been my chat up line if I'd ever had a same sex encounter.


I was circumcised as well, because I think it's just pretty common in America.

I'm pretty sure no grunge survivors rose from the ashes of my Mother Love Bone though.

Author:  Lament [ Thu October 10, 2013 2:54 am ]
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C4lukin wrote:
Lament wrote:
I don't know how I feel about this whole circumcision debate. Can someone explain it to me using only surfing and surfing-related metaphors? Thanks.



Infants do not have the choice of whether or not they are circumsized. It is like being pushed out to sea during a category 5 hurricane, yet you have not yet learned to swim. As 100 foot waves crash on your penis, you not only lose your foreskin, but also your ability trust. If only your parents would allow you to grow older and choose for yourself. It would not be a crushing wave, but a gentle surf to a cut or uncut Utopia.


Damn. This was a good one.

Author:  BurtReynolds [ Thu October 10, 2013 2:57 am ]
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I feel retroactively abused.

Author:  stip [ Thu October 10, 2013 2:57 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Eddie's anti gun rant during the the Mark Richards inter

C4lukin wrote:
Lament wrote:
I don't know how I feel about this whole circumcision debate. Can someone explain it to me using only surfing and surfing-related metaphors? Thanks.



Infants do not have the choice of whether or not they are circumsized. It is like being pushed out to sea during a category 5 hurricane, yet you have not yet learned to swim. As 100 foot waves crash on your penis, you not only lose your foreskin, but also your ability trust. If only your parents would allow you to grow older and choose for yourself. It would not be a crushing wave, but a gentle surf to a cut or uncut Utopia.



I'm glad I am circumcised, insofar as I ever think about it (which is whenever these threads appear and that's it), but no way in hell I am ever making that decision once I was old enough to understand what having a knife near my penis means.

And infants don't have the ability to do anything. We give them religion, education, values. yes these things can change, but doing it poorly early on can fuck people up for the rest of their life a lot more than what is basically a pointless procedure that exists largely for aesthetic/religious purposes.

Author:  Lament [ Thu October 10, 2013 2:59 am ]
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Serious question...

Are there a significant amount of people out there who were circumcised as infants who grow up and feel like they've been wronged? Or is it mostly like when people get their baby's ears pierced, and the baby doesn't grow up caring one way or another about it? I know I've never given in a second thought. Are the reasons why someone would be upset about it mostly religious?

Author:  Lament [ Thu October 10, 2013 3:00 am ]
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stip wrote:
We give them religion, education, values.


You could have just said we give them Pearl Jam, stip. Come on now.

Author:  stip [ Thu October 10, 2013 3:01 am ]
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Lament wrote:
stip wrote:
We give them religion, education, values.


You could have just said we give them Pearl Jam, stip. Come on now.


yeah, but kids don't get to choose which era they are introduced to. that's not really fair to the kids, forcing that on them without their consent.

Author:  doug rr [ Thu October 10, 2013 3:01 am ]
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Lament wrote:
Serious question...

Are there a significant amount of people out there who were circumcised as infants who grow up and feel like they've been wronged? Or is it mostly like when people get their baby's ears pierced, and the baby doesn't grow up caring one way or another about it? I know I've never given in a second thought. Are the reasons why someone would be upset about it mostly religious?



mine gets wronged quite often

Author:  Lament [ Thu October 10, 2013 3:03 am ]
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I'm questioning my circumcision
Is my circumcision who I am now?
While you're deciding, I've been finding
Looking around in the here and now
If I've been cut from the beginning
Would my fears now by winning?

Author:  C4lukin [ Thu October 10, 2013 3:04 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Eddie's anti gun rant during the the Mark Richards inter

stip wrote:
C4lukin wrote:
Lament wrote:
I don't know how I feel about this whole circumcision debate. Can someone explain it to me using only surfing and surfing-related metaphors? Thanks.



Infants do not have the choice of whether or not they are circumsized. It is like being pushed out to sea during a category 5 hurricane, yet you have not yet learned to swim. As 100 foot waves crash on your penis, you not only lose your foreskin, but also your ability trust. If only your parents would allow you to grow older and choose for yourself. It would not be a crushing wave, but a gentle surf to a cut or uncut Utopia.



I'm glad I am circumcised, insofar as I ever think about it (which is whenever these threads appear and that's it), but no way in hell I am ever making that decision once I was old enough to understand what having a knife near my penis means.

And infants don't have the ability to do anything. We give them religion, education, values. yes these things can change, but doing it poorly early on can fuck people up for the rest of their life a lot more than what is basically a pointless procedure that exists largely for aesthetic/religious purposes.



I am just making a wave metaphor. I am super glad this was decided for me as a baby. No way I would go through with it as an adult. I am glad my baby brain which could not even recognize faces went through it. No shits were given. I think the anti circumcision camp is just annoyed that they cannot relate to most American porn. Or some girl or guy gave them a weird look once.

Author:  BurtReynolds [ Thu October 10, 2013 3:10 am ]
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Mine kinda leans to the left. could that be circumcision related? Do I have grounds for a lawsuit?

Author:  C4lukin [ Thu October 10, 2013 3:11 am ]
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BurtReynolds wrote:
Mine kinda leans to the left. could that be circumcision related? Do I have grounds for a lawsuit?


We must have had the same rabbi.

I like how this thread has become something very different from what was inteneded.

Author:  doug rr [ Thu October 10, 2013 3:11 am ]
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BurtReynolds wrote:
Mine kinda leans to the left. could that be circumcision related? Do I have grounds for a lawsuit?


leaning to the left in orange county is never a good thing

Author:  Farmer John [ Thu October 10, 2013 3:11 am ]
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Whoever circumsized me was a fucking butcher.

Author:  C4lukin [ Thu October 10, 2013 3:14 am ]
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Farmer John wrote:
Whoever circumsized me was a fucking butcher.



Are you sure they were not an artist?

Author:  Its evolution [ Thu October 10, 2013 3:14 am ]
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If you have different views, cool. But he's been doing this stuff since the beginning. I didn't care for the mocking of the prez after 9-11. It was insensitive at that time. I didn't vote for Bush, but it felt wrong. It was too early.

Just gotta separate his views and enjoy the music.

Btw, his idol Johnny Ramone would disagree with his stance.

Author:  Lament [ Thu October 10, 2013 3:15 am ]
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BurtReynolds wrote:
Mine kinda leans to the left. could that be circumcision related? Do I have grounds for a lawsuit?


Nothing is certain, but you would be wise to meet with a high rise lawyer. I hear Ed knows a guy...

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