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No Code: Lets Rate It!
5 Stars: One of the best 69%  69%  [ 62 ]
4 Stars: Very good 24%  24%  [ 22 ]
3 Stars: Average 6%  6%  [ 5 ]
2 Stars: Meh 1%  1%  [ 1 ]
1 Star: Sucks 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
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 Post subject: Re: No Code: Official Album Thread
PostPosted: Sat March 31, 2018 6:17 am 
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Wendy Carlos's Twin wrote:
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How many different studio versions have been officially released? Just those two or is there a third one as well?


according to stip's master list:

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Hard to Imagine: Chicago Cab soundtrack, Vitalogy demo, Lost Dogs, Vs. Demo


but i don't know which of those are the same


There are two versions....

Lost Dogs/Vs.
Chicago Cab/Vitalogy



The either versions are sounding a very sameish to me, tho. And Whipping(VS)/Whipping(Vitalogy) too. Weird


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 Post subject: Re: No Code: Official Album Thread
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i am going to defend my 2 rating for this album since i noticed it's the only one logged below 3.

when i listen to them individually, i at least like most if not all of the no code songs. who you are was an instant favorite back in 1996 and has remained so since. but as an album, i've never felt the songs as a group sit together very well and the album usually just ends up being a chore for me to listen to by the time habit rolls around. pearl jam albums have almost always seemed "top heavy", but even then the top half of no code is disjointed in sound and just pushes me in different directions instead of simply bringing me in to the record. i don't like that, and feel that of any of their records this should be the one that pulls you in the most but it ends up doing the opposite for me. you have the quiet reflection of sometimes and the sudden jarring slam of hail, hail (which taken by itself is awesome, i can admit), but then you go into the two jack driven songs back to back, then a neil young homage, a self-reflective meditation piece, another jarring rock track, bluesy rock, a short punk number, a quirky stone song, poetry reading in atmosphere, and a lullaby. what the fuck.

i feel that no code is a mess of a record, and the sum of its parts is significantly greater than the whole.

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 Post subject: Re: No Code: Official Album Thread
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I'd agree. More than almost any other album in the catalog I have issues with the flow of No Code, in a way that diminishes my overall experience of the album

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Off He Goes is the only song that needs to be replaced, IMO. Get a better song in its place and this album is perfect.

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I love it.

Even if some b sides or outtakes might be better than a song or two, even if the experimental ones get rarely played, i love it just the way it is.

Along with Vs, my favorite ever from the band.

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Along with Vs, my favorite ever from the band.

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VinylGuy wrote:
I love it.

Even if some b sides or outtakes might be better than a song or two, even if the experimental ones get rarely played, i love it just the way it is.

Along with Vs, my favorite ever from the band.

Totally. These threads are fun, for me. But I wouldn't actually change anything about the record.


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No code and yield feel like a double album to me in a way. Their songs seem more closely tied and the two compliment each other more than any other two records in pjs library.

You can listen to no code and immediately stick on yield and they just fit. That’s just benefit of time and distance perhaps tainted by height of my fandom. I don’t know.

The moline show where they played no code in full and went from around the bend straight into given to fly, is a lovely moment.

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They’re only a year and a half apart, as well, so that helps a lot. Once an artist gets to two year gaps, with some exceptions, the albums always feel like isolated events rather than additions to a narrative.

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In just 6 years this one band went from ten to no code.

If you look at that journey it’s quite a feat of artistic development in a really short amount of time and under immense scrutiny and endless touring and pr pressures

You could almost say that high pressure situation is better for creativity if you look at the back end and compare the fruits of comfortable (aka lazy) rockstar lives

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Really? I think No Code and yield are pretty separate from each other.

No Code is a very interesting album to me with a lot of things going on, and I love how Pearl Jam kind of stretched their wings in a unique way and you never know what you're gonna get...I find it very underrated its one of my favorite ones

Yield is like....its good but its so one-note and average. Its on the GOOD side of average but it never transcends that and even the good songs are weakened by being amongst other tracks that just don't stand out from one another. it is a good solid album, but arguably Pearl Jam's most BORING good album. Its fine and pleasant and nothing more. I mean, I ENJOY it but I find it hard to praise it too strongly.


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I love Present Tense, but I’m typically not a fan of live versions. This is an exception.

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I know I’m in the mega minority on this, but I’m partial to this version of In My Tree. From 3:05 through the end is perfect.

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I know I’m in the mega minority on this, but I’m partial to this version of In My Tree. From 3:05 through the end is perfect.

I hate this version so fucking much.


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I know I’m in the mega minority on this, but I’m partial to this version of In My Tree. From 3:05 through the end is perfect.

I hate this version so fucking much.

Hahahahahahahahaha

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I hate this version so fucking much.


Me too, dude. Me too.


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Wendy Carlos's Twin wrote:
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I hate this version so fucking much.


Me too, dude. Me too.


I’m okay with it with the understanding that it doesn’t even touch the original version live or otherwise.


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In much tree, played properly


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PHATJ wrote:
I know I’m in the mega minority on this, but I’m partial to this version of In My Tree. From 3:05 through the end is perfect.

I hate this version so fucking much.


it's the worst.

were they trying to make the song easier for Matt or something?

it felt like the idea started off with, "Hey guys, everyone loves this song, let's turn it into an anthem."


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