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 Post subject: alternate mixes/remasters
PostPosted: Mon October 23, 2023 10:57 am 
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Im getting a little lost in some of the conversations around new mixes/masters/formats (if the format sound different) so I thought starting a list might help

Alddo if Trag or someone qualified could drop in one iof those definitions posts that would be great.

There is a Ten remaster and remix from box set
Vs remaster from box set
Vitalogy remaster from box set
S/T remix on spotify


what else? would these atmos things count? are the vinyl’s changed in some way or same tracks played through a different delivery mechanism?

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Im getting a little lost in some of the conversations around new mixes/masters/formats (if the format sound different) so I thought starting a list might help

Alddo if Trag or someone qualified could drop in one iof those definitions posts that would be great.

There is a Ten remaster and remix from box set
Vs remaster from box set
Vitalogy remaster from box set
S/T remix on spotify


what else? would these atmos things count? are the vinyl’s changed in some way or same tracks played through a different delivery mechanism?


You can count atmos, but it's different. So is hi-res audio.

I believe all the current (last 10 years orso) re-releases of PJ records on vinyl are remastered for vinyl.


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so which albums have atmos and high res audio in that case?

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so which albums have atmos and high res audio in that case?


There are hi-res downloads for all except Backspacer and Lost Dogs. Not sure, but I think Atmos is only for Yield and now Vs coming up ?? Not sure, maybe Gigaton too?


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Ten, Vs, No Code, Yield and Lightning Bolt all have the Atmos.


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Farmer John wrote:
Ten, Vs, No Code, Yield and Lightning Bolt all have the Atmos.


Gigaton also has Atmos.


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so which albums have atmos and high res audio in that case?


There are hi-res downloads for all except Backspacer and Lost Dogs. Not sure, but I think Atmos is only for Yield and now Vs coming up ?? Not sure, maybe Gigaton too?


where are the hi rez downloads?

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RVM, the greatest hits album, have some remixes too right?

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i was looking more for whole albums - there are a bunch of remixes and alt takes on RVM and LD

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stip wrote:
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stip wrote:
so which albums have atmos and high res audio in that case?


There are hi-res downloads for all except Backspacer and Lost Dogs. Not sure, but I think Atmos is only for Yield and now Vs coming up ?? Not sure, maybe Gigaton too?


where are the hi rez downloads?


and follow up questions - is this the apple pod thing?

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hi-res can be found on several places. These are downloads. Hi-res streaming is on Tidal, Apple,....

https://www.qobuz.com/
https://www.hdtracks.com/


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High-resolution audio (high-definition audio or HD audio) is a term for audio files with greater than 44.1 kHz sample rate or higher than 16-bit audio bit depth (standard CD). It commonly refers to 96 or 192 kHz sample rates. However, 44.1 kHz/24-bit, 48 kHz/24-bit and 88.2 kHz/24-bit recordings also exist that are labeled HD Audio.


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Is there somewhere you can download the Atmos mixes, or are they only available to stream?


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LooseGroove927 wrote:
Is there somewhere you can download the Atmos mixes, or are they only available to stream?


They're currently only available yo stream.


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BootsToAsses wrote:
LooseGroove927 wrote:
Is there somewhere you can download the Atmos mixes, or are they only available to stream?


They're currently only available yo stream.

I am so happy that there is another of us whose phone feels it's owner uses the word 'yo' more than 'to' and so doesn't bother to auto-correct the typo.

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Higgs wrote:
BootsToAsses wrote:
LooseGroove927 wrote:
Is there somewhere you can download the Atmos mixes, or are they only available to stream?


They're currently only available yo stream.

I am so happy that there is another of us whose phone feels it's owner uses the word 'yo' more than 'to' and so doesn't bother to auto-correct the typo.


I'm disappointed in myself as I always proof-read. I'm also not cool enough to use 'yo'on a daily basis.


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Higgs wrote:
BootsToAsses wrote:
LooseGroove927 wrote:
Is there somewhere you can download the Atmos mixes, or are they only available to stream?


They're currently only available yo stream.

I am so happy that there is another of us whose phone feels it's owner uses the word 'yo' more than 'to' and so doesn't bother to auto-correct the typo.


I'm disappointed in myself as I always proof-read. I'm also not cool enough to use 'yo'on a daily basis.

I feel ya, holmes.

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joostone wrote:
hi-res can be found on several places. These are downloads. Hi-res streaming is on Tidal, Apple,....

https://www.qobuz.com/
https://www.hdtracks.com/


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High-resolution audio (high-definition audio or HD audio) is a term for audio files with greater than 44.1 kHz sample rate or higher than 16-bit audio bit depth (standard CD). It commonly refers to 96 or 192 kHz sample rates. However, 44.1 kHz/24-bit, 48 kHz/24-bit and 88.2 kHz/24-bit recordings also exist that are labeled HD Audio.


i was listening to some of the preview tracks on HD - they do sound better. same mix on all these sites? and is hi rez betteror worse than atmos. i dont want to keep rebuying the same songs

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stip wrote:
joostone wrote:
hi-res can be found on several places. These are downloads. Hi-res streaming is on Tidal, Apple,....

https://www.qobuz.com/
https://www.hdtracks.com/


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High-resolution audio (high-definition audio or HD audio) is a term for audio files with greater than 44.1 kHz sample rate or higher than 16-bit audio bit depth (standard CD). It commonly refers to 96 or 192 kHz sample rates. However, 44.1 kHz/24-bit, 48 kHz/24-bit and 88.2 kHz/24-bit recordings also exist that are labeled HD Audio.


i was listening to some of the preview tracks on HD - they do sound better. same mix on all these sites? and is hi rez betteror worse than atmos. i dont want to keep rebuying the same songs


Yeah those are all the same mix. Unlike Atmos a HD file is not a different mix. It's the standard mix presented at a higher bitrate.


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Hi res for anything from Ten - Binaural should be regarded with skepticism as they are likely sourced from low res ADATs.


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