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 Post subject: Original pre-release Vitalogy
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Saw the Dave A interview today, and found quite fascinating his comments on the Vitalogy he was part of making.

Does anyone know more on this original version (demo?) of Vitalogy?


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Anders wrote:
Saw the Dave A interview today, and found quite fascinating his comments on the Vitalogy he was part of making.

Does anyone know more on this original version (demo?) of Vitalogy?

There were tapes included in the “Cockage tapes” that are not at all interesting. Simply a different running order and without the weird instrumental tracks


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tragabigzanda wrote:
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Saw the Dave A interview today, and found quite fascinating his comments on the Vitalogy he was part of making.

Does anyone know more on this original version (demo?) of Vitalogy?

There were tapes included in the “Cockage tapes” that are not at all interesting. Simply a different running order and without the weird instrumental tracks

Was HtI included?

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 Post subject: Re: Original pre-release Vitalogy
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https://www.collectionzz.com/Cockage/pearl-jam-cassette/curtis-management-vitalogy-rough-mix-05-27-94

Side A:
01. Last Exit
02. Corduroy
03. Spin The Black Circle
04. Not For You
05. Tremor Christ
06. Nothingman
07. Whipping
08. Satan's Bed
09. Bugs
10. Betterman
11. Hard To Imagine

Side B:
01. Instrumental

https://www.collectionzz.com/Cockage/pearl-jam-cassette/vitalogy-rough-mix

Side A:
01. Corduroy
02. Last Exit
03. Spin The Black Circle
04. Not For You
05. Tremor Christ
06. Nothingman
07. Immortality
08. Already In Love
09. Betterman
10. Circus (Bugs)
11. Outta My Mind (Live)
12. African Groove (Aye Davanita)

Side B:
01. Untitled Jam #1
02. Untitled Jam #2


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tragabigzanda wrote:
Anders wrote:
Saw the Dave A interview today, and found quite fascinating his comments on the Vitalogy he was part of making.

Does anyone know more on this original version (demo?) of Vitalogy?

There were tapes included in the “Cockage tapes” that are not at all interesting. Simply a different running order and without the weird instrumental tracks

Was HtI included?

I'd have to look, I don't recall. From that garage haul, the most interesting missing tracks are from the Vs sessions, specifically "I Won't" and "Indian Beatles." To the best of my memory, there's nothing hinted at from the Vitalogy sessions that didn't make its way out elsewhere in official form.


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Anders wrote:
https://www.collectionzz.com/Cockage/pearl-jam-cassette/curtis-management-vitalogy-rough-mix-05-27-94

Side A:
01. Last Exit
02. Corduroy
03. Spin The Black Circle
04. Not For You
05. Tremor Christ
06. Nothingman
07. Whipping
08. Satan's Bed
09. Bugs
10. Betterman
11. Hard To Imagine

Side B:
01. Instrumental

The running time for Spin the Black Circle on this tape is notably longer (3 min 14) here than on the final record (2 min 48).


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Interesting that "Out of My Mind" appears on one of the early tracklists -- unless they're just reference tapes that don't reflect proposed tracklistings, but rather just a collection of songs slated for release in some format.


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Interesting that "Out of My Mind" appears on one of the early tracklists -- unless they're just reference tapes that don't reflect proposed tracklistings, but rather just a collection of songs slated for release in some format.

I think it’s basically this


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 Post subject: Re: Original pre-release Vitalogy
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Birds in Hell wrote:
Anders wrote:
https://www.collectionzz.com/Cockage/pearl-jam-cassette/curtis-management-vitalogy-rough-mix-05-27-94

Side A:
01. Last Exit
02. Corduroy
03. Spin The Black Circle
04. Not For You
05. Tremor Christ
06. Nothingman
07. Whipping
08. Satan's Bed
09. Bugs
10. Betterman
11. Hard To Imagine

Side B:
01. Instrumental

The running time for Spin the Black Circle on this tape is notably longer (3 min 14) here than on the final record (2 min 48).

Good catch Spenno


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tragabigzanda wrote:
Birds in Hell wrote:
Anders wrote:
https://www.collectionzz.com/Cockage/pearl-jam-cassette/curtis-management-vitalogy-rough-mix-05-27-94

Side A:
01. Last Exit
02. Corduroy
03. Spin The Black Circle
04. Not For You
05. Tremor Christ
06. Nothingman
07. Whipping
08. Satan's Bed
09. Bugs
10. Betterman
11. Hard To Imagine

Side B:
01. Instrumental

The running time for Spin the Black Circle on this tape is notably longer (3 min 14) here than on the final record (2 min 48).

Good catch Spenno

No Immortality on this one either.

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Hard to Imagine so special

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It's hard to fathom a May 94 Vitalogy not having Immortality.


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Do we have those instrumentals in the drive?

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Do we have those instrumentals in the drive?

Nah, there are some practice room jams from before Vs but nothing like that from Vitalogy


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 Post subject: Re: Original pre-release Vitalogy
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Birds in Hell wrote:
Anders wrote:
https://www.collectionzz.com/Cockage/pearl-jam-cassette/curtis-management-vitalogy-rough-mix-05-27-94

Side A:
01. Last Exit
02. Corduroy
03. Spin The Black Circle
04. Not For You
05. Tremor Christ
06. Nothingman
07. Whipping
08. Satan's Bed
09. Bugs
10. Betterman
11. Hard To Imagine

Side B:
01. Instrumental

The running time for Spin the Black Circle on this tape is notably longer (3 min 14) here than on the final record (2 min 48).


That's due to it having the intro that is associated with Betterman on the released version of Vitalogy....

works way better with STBC (imo)

https://www.dropbox.com/s/yc7z0i8x9nhn5 ... e.wav?dl=0


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mfc17 wrote:
Birds in Hell wrote:
Anders wrote:
https://www.collectionzz.com/Cockage/pearl-jam-cassette/curtis-management-vitalogy-rough-mix-05-27-94

Side A:
01. Last Exit
02. Corduroy
03. Spin The Black Circle
04. Not For You
05. Tremor Christ
06. Nothingman
07. Whipping
08. Satan's Bed
09. Bugs
10. Betterman
11. Hard To Imagine

Side B:
01. Instrumental

The running time for Spin the Black Circle on this tape is notably longer (3 min 14) here than on the final record (2 min 48).


That's due to it having the intro that is associated with Betterman on the released version of Vitalogy....

Good suggestion and you're probably right.

That feedback intro on the record is around 23 seconds long, so that's pretty close (if not exact).

It's hard to imagine (no pun intended) how it fits in with STBC.


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Birds in Hell wrote:
mfc17 wrote:
Birds in Hell wrote:
Anders wrote:
https://www.collectionzz.com/Cockage/pearl-jam-cassette/curtis-management-vitalogy-rough-mix-05-27-94

Side A:
01. Last Exit
02. Corduroy
03. Spin The Black Circle
04. Not For You
05. Tremor Christ
06. Nothingman
07. Whipping
08. Satan's Bed
09. Bugs
10. Betterman
11. Hard To Imagine

Side B:
01. Instrumental

The running time for Spin the Black Circle on this tape is notably longer (3 min 14) here than on the final record (2 min 48).


That's due to it having the intro that is associated with Betterman on the released version of Vitalogy....

Good suggestion and you're probably right.

That feedback intro on the record is around 23 seconds long, so that's pretty close (if not exact).

It's hard to imagine (no pun intended) how it fits in with STBC.


i linked to the track above.....you can listen for yourself.


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