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 Post subject: Re: The definitive list of pearl jam songs/versions
PostPosted: Wed January 15, 2014 7:51 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: The definitive list of pearl jam songs/versions
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You guys are forgetting some Ten demos like Black or Evenflow that are considerably different than the album version. Also, there is an Otherside demo with Jeff on vocals.The Bad Radio version of Betterman should be in here?

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hlniv wrote:
While I was trying to internet up this "3 song sampler" Alive version (which, btw, wtf is that?), I came across something I've never seen before.

Anyone heard this version of Alive? Clocks in at 4:55 vs the album length of 5:41. Looks like this compilation was released in March '92.

http://www.allmusic.com/album/release/stanley-son-of-theodore-yet-another-alternative-music-sampler-mr0000025145

I just listened to the sample of the 4:55 version online and it appears to just be the RKCNDY live version (1991-08-03) from the Alive video - let me know if you don't have it and would like a FLAC hook up :thumbsup:


Also - a quick question about not using FLAC for this: does that mean when you edited a track for length, volume, fade-in etc you started with an mp3, made changes, and then saved it as an mp3?

If so then this is exactly why people don't like mp3 - any saving results in a re-encode, meaning you are downgrading the quality further by making an mp3 of an mp3.

Not to sound ungrateful for your great work here, just wanted to know the linage :peace:

Think of making/saving mp3s as making photocopies. If you have a photocopied document, make some changes to it by hand, and then photocopy it again - you're going to lose quality. Lossless is like having the original document digitally, which you can make changes to while maintaining the quality of the original. People can then always hit 'print' (i.e. convert) and make themselves a photocopy/mp3, but at least then they're doing so from the original version, not a photocopy of a photocopy :)


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Yes, I get that. Where I had flacs, I edited the flac and decoded to mp3. Many of the released studio tracks I only have as mp3, so that could not be done. I would guess there are 20-30 tracks across the set that were done that way, ie they needed some type of edit, and I had to work with mp3.


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hlniv wrote:
Yes, I get that. Where I had flacs, I edited the flac and decoded to mp3. Many of the released studio tracks I only have as mp3, so that could not be done. I would guess there are 20-30 tracks across the set that were done that way, ie they needed some type of edit, and I had to work with mp3.

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Any suggestions for a free flac to mp3 converter? Would like to get 320kbps quality all the ones I see only do 128kbps.


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bada wrote:
Any suggestions for a free flac to mp3 converter? Would like to get 320kbps quality all the ones I see only do 128kbps.

dBPoweramp is great, full control over bitrate/quality, integration with rightclick button etc. I think it's free, even if not all the codecs are...


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ridleybradout wrote:
bada wrote:
Any suggestions for a free flac to mp3 converter? Would like to get 320kbps quality all the ones I see only do 128kbps.

dBPoweramp is great, full control over bitrate/quality, integration with rightclick button etc. I think it's free, even if not all the codecs are...

Nope, it used to be but now you have to pay for it. Well worth it, if you ask me.


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Thx guys I will look into it.


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XLD (X Lossless Decoder) is awesome on the Mac. they probably have a version or something similar for PC.


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Okay, I'm going to do some serious work on this today. I have some files called the Vs. rough mixes and the vitalogy rough mixes. Does anyone know if these are legit, or whether or not they're just scuffed up versions of the studio tracks. I know the Ten rough mixes are actually different.

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where is Chinese from?

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My file is corrupted. Is the version of Crazy mary in the vs. box set the same length as the sweet relief version, or is it shortened?

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stip wrote:
Okay, I'm going to do some serious work on this today. I have some files called the Vs. rough mixes and the vitalogy rough mixes. Does anyone know if these are legit, or whether or not they're just scuffed up versions of the studio tracks. I know the Ten rough mixes are actually different.


I've listened to a few and I'm just not sure. I kinda suspect they're not really different, but I'd like a better set of ears to confirm

Although there is also a whipping listed with the Vs. demos that does sound a bit different from the Vitalogy version (with a drum countdown)

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Shit, glorified G is definitely different--there is some studio chatter and counting in

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Is stone's The King demo an early even flow, or a separate song?

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I could also use a check on whether or not the Holiday single and LD versions of strangest tribe are different? I hear the same thing but someone else said they are slightly different. Break the tie!

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okay, done. This could really use some double checking:

Note: This does not include live performances. It includes studio solo performances of Pearl Jam songs.

Acoustic #1: Pearl Jam 20
Alive: Ten/Single Version, Ten Remix, Ten remastered, RVM remix, Ten rough mix, 3 song sampler, Video version (live), mamasan demo, First week rehearsal demo, Dollar Short (stone demo)
All Night: Lost Dogs
All or None: Riot Act
All Those Yesterdays: Yield
Alone: Lost Dogs, Go Single, Ten rough mix, first week rehersal demo, Vs. demo, Ten rough mix, Unreleased Lost Dogs mix, Richard E (stone demo)
Amongst the Waves: Backspacer
Angel: Holiday single, 1993
Animal: Vs/Single 1 and 2, RVM version, Vs demo, Vs. remastered, Weird A (stone demo), Weird A first week rehearsal demo
Anything In Between: Unreleased Lost Dog disc
Arc: Riot Act
Army Reserve: S/T
Around the Bend: No code
Aye Davanita: Vitalogy
Be Like Wind: PJ 20
Bee Girl: Lost Dogs
Betterman: Vitalogy, guitar&organ/Vitalogy re-issue, molo sessions, Bad Radio, Vitalogy demo
Better Things: Holiday Single 2011
Big Wave: S/T
Black: Ten, Ten remastered, RVM remix, Ten remix, Ten Rough Mix, First week reherseal demos, E ballad (stone demo)
Black Red Yellow: Hail Hail Single, Lost Dogs
Blood: Vs. Vs. remastered, Vs. demos
Brain of J: Yield
Breakerfall: Binaural, Binaural demos
Breath: Singles/RVM, Rough mix, Ten re-issue (Breath and a Scream), Ten Demo, First week reherseal demos, Doobie E (stone demo)
Brother: Ten re-issue, Lost Dogs, Ten demo, unreleased Lost Dogs
Bugs: Vitalogy, Vitalogy demo
Bushleaguer: Riot Act
Can’t Keep: Riot Act, Ukulele Songs
Chinese: Unreleased song from Ten
Cold Confession: S/T outtake
Comatose: S/T, S/T rough mix
Come Back: S/T
Corduroy: Vitalogy/RVM, alt-take/Vitalogy re-issue, Vitalogy demos
Crazy Mary: Sweet Relief, Vs. re-issue
Cready Stomp: Vs reissue
Cropduster: Riot Act
Daddy Could Swear, I Declare: First week rehersal demos

Daughter: Vs/Single/RVM, Vs. demo, Vs. remastered,
Dead Man: Lost Dogs/Off He Goes single, Dead Man Walking Legacy Edition
Deep: Ten, Ten remastered, Ten Remixed, Ten rough mix
Devil Doll: Holiday Single 2011
Dirty Frank: Lost Dogs, Even Flow/Alive single
Dissident: Vs/Single/RVM, Vs. remastered, Vs demo
Don’t Believe in Christmas: Holiday Single 2002
Don’t Gimmie No Lip: Lost Dogs, Unreleased Lost Dogs (rough mix)
Down: I Am Mine single, Lost Dogs (slight mastering differences)
Drifting: Fan club single, Lost Dogs
Education: Unreleased Lost Dogs, Lost Dogs,
Elderly Woman: Vs/RVM., Vs. Remastered, Go single (demo), Vs. demo
The End: Backspacper, orchestral version (used as music on Ed solo tour)
Evacuation: Binaural
Even Flow: Ten, Ten Remasted Ten Redux, Rearviewmirror/video version, Ten rough mix, first week reheresal demo,
Evil Little Goat: Ten reissue, first week rehersal demo
Faithful: Yield
Falling Down: Holiday Single 2010
Fatal: Lost Dogs, Unreleased Lost Dogs (rough mix)
The Fixer: TBackspacer, Matt Cameron demo (PJ 20--Need to Know), video version
Foldback: Touring Band 2000
Folk D: stone demo
Footsteps: Lost Dogs, Jeremy single, mamasan demo, Times of Trouble demo (PJ 20)
Force of Nature: Backspacer
Future Days: Lightning Bolt
Garden: Ten, Ten remastered, Ten remixed, Ten rough demo
Getaway: Lightning Bolt
Get Right: Riot Act
Ghost: Riot Act
Given To Fly: Yield/Single/RVM, PJ 20 (instrumental version)
Glorified G: Vs, Vs, remastered, Vs. demo
Go: Vs/RVM/Single, Vs. demo, Vs remastered
God’s Dice: Binaural
Golden State: Holiday Single 2011, The Golden State
Gone: S/T, Holiday Single 2005 (demo)
Gonna See My Friend: Backspacer
Got Some: Baackspacer
Grievance: Binaural
Green Disease: Riot Act
Gremmie Out of Control: MOM/Lost Dogs
Habit: No Code
Hail Hail: No Code/Single/RVM
Happy When I’m Crying: Holiday Single 1997
Hard to Imagine: Chicago Cab soundtrack, Vitalogy demo, Lost Dogs, Vs. Demo
Harmony: Touring Band 200
Help Help: Riot Act
Hey Foxymophandle Mama, That’s Me: Vitalogy
Hitchhiker: Lost Dogs, Unreleased Lost Dogs (rough mix)
Hold On: Lost Dogs, Unreleased Lost Dog (Ten era mix), Vs. box set (acoustic)
Hummus: Yield
I Am Mine: Riot Act/RVM/Single
I Got ID: Merkinball/RVM
I Just Wanna Have Something to Do: Holiday Single 2001
I’m Open: No Code
Immortality: Vitalogy/RVM/Single
In Hiding: Yield
In My Tree: No Code
In the Moonlight: Lost Dogs, Unreleased Lost Dogs (rough mix)
Indifference: Vs., Vs. remastered, Vs. demo
Infallible: Backspacer
Inside Job: S/T
Insignificance: Binaural (Brendan O'Brien mix); Nothing As It Seems single (Tchad Blake mix)
It Ain’t Like That: PJ 20
I’ve Got A Feeling: Ten Rough Mixes
Jeremy: Ten, Ten remastered, Ten remixed, RVM mix, Rough Mix, Single edit, Holiday Single 2001 (‘New’ Jeremy 2010)
Jingle Bells: Holiday Single 2007
Johnny Guitar: Backspacer
Just A Girl: Evil E (stone demo), First week rehearsal demo, Ten reissue, Unreleased Lost Dogs
Just Breathe: Backspacer
The King: stone demo
Last Exit: Vitalogy, Vitalogy demo
Last Kiss: Single, RVM, Lost Dog
Leatherman: Given to Fly single
Leash: Vs., Vs. Remastered, Vs. demo
Leavin Here: Hoem Alive/Lost Dogs
Let It Ride: S/T outtake
Let Me Sleep: Lost Dogs, Holiday Single 1991
Life Wasted: S/T, S/T rough mix
Light Years: Binaural/Single, Binaural demo
Lightning Bolt: Lightning Bolt
Long Road: Merkinball, Molo Sessions, Dead Man Walking soundtrack, dead man walking score
Love Boat Captain: Riot Act/Single, Molo sessions
Love Reign O’er Me: Holiday Single 2006
Low Light: Yield
Lukin: Yield
Man of the Hour: Moth Single, Demo version on single
Mankind: No Code
Marker in the Sand: S/T
Master/Slave: Ten, Ten remixed, Ten mastered
MFC: Yield:
Mind Your Manners: Lightning Bolt, video version
My Father’s Son: Lighting Bolt
Need to Know: PJ 20
No Way: Yield
Not For You: Vitalogy/RVM, Vitalogy demos
Nothing As It Seems: Binaural/RVM, PJ 20 soundtrack (demo), Binaural demo, Single
Nothingman: Vitalogy/RVM, demo/Vitalogy re-issue, Vitalogy demo
Oceans: Ten/single, Ten remastered, Ten remixed, first week rehersal demo, rough mix, Even flow single (remix),
Of The Earth: Pearl Jam Twenty (DVD)
Of the Girl: Binaural, PJ 20 (instrumental)
Off He Goes: No Code/Single/RVM
Ole: website release 2011
Olympic Platinum: Holiday single 1996
Once: Ten, Ten remix, Ten remastered, RVM remix, Ten Rough Mix, Ten first week rehearsal mix, Stone demo (Agytian crave), Mamasan demo
Other Side: Save You, Lost Dogs
Out of My Mind: Not For You
Parachutes: S/T, S/T rough mix
Parting Ways: Binaural
Pendulum: Lightning Bolt
Pilate: Yield/Given to Fly
Porch: Ten, Ten remastered, Ten remixed, Ten rough mix
Present Tense: No Code
Pry, To: Vitalogy
Push Me/Pull Me: Yield
Puzzles and Games: Unreleased Lost Dogs
Ramblings 1: Holiday single 1991
Ramblings 2: Holiday single 1992
Ramblings 3: Holiday single 1993
Rats: Vs. Vs. remastered, Vs. demo
Red Dot: Yield
Release: Ten, Ten rough mix, Ten remixed, Ten remastered, first week rehearsal demo, Out of the Furnace
Rival: Binaural
Rock Around Barack: 2008 website release
Sad: Lost Dogs, Unreleased Lost Dogs
Santa Cruz: Holiday Single 2008
Santa God: Holiday Single 2007
Satan’s Bed: Vitalogy, Vitalogy demo
Save You: Riot Act/Single, RVM (burst of feedback)
Severed Hand: S/T, S/T demo
Sirens: Lightning bolt, video
Sleeping By Myself: Lightning Bolt, Ukulele songs
Sleight of Hand: Binaural
Smile: No Code
Someday At Christmas: Holiday Single 2004
Sometimes: No Code
Sonic Reducer: Holiday Single 1992
Soon Forget: Binaural
Speed of Sound: Backspacer, demo
Spin the Black Circle: Vitalogy/RVM, Vitalogy demo
State of Love and Trust: Singles, RVM, Ten re-issue
Strangest Tribe: Fan club single/Lost Dogs
Sunburn: Unreleased Lost Dogs
Supersonic: Backspacer
Swallowed Whole: Lightning Bolt
Sweet Lew: Lost Dogs, Unreleased Lost Dog
Thin Air: Binaural:
Thumbing My Way: Riot Act
Thunderclap: Touring Band 2000
Tremor Christ: Vitalogy/Vitalogy demo
Turning Mist: Holiday Single 2011
U: Lost Dogs, Wishlist single
Undone: I Am Mine single, Lost Dogs
Unemployable: S/T, S/T demo
Unthought Known: Backspacer
Untitled: unreleased Lost Dogs
Untitled: Ten era Stone demo
W.M.A.: Vs., Vs. remastered, Vs. demos
Wash: 'Alive' single/TEN European bonus track ; 'Lost Dogs', Wash rough mix
Wasted Reprise: S/T
Whale Song: MOM III, Lost Dogs
Whipping: Vitalogy, Vs. demo, Vitalogy demo
Why Go: Ten, Ten remix, Ten remaster, Rough mix
Who You Are: No Code/Chicago Cab, Rearviewmirror (slight lyric edit)
Wishing Well: Unreleased Lost Dogs
Wishlist: Yield/Single/RVM
World Wide Suicide: S/T/Single, S/T demo
Yellow Ledbetter: RVM/Lost Dogs/Jeremy Single, First week rehearsal demo
Yellow Moon: Lighting Bolt
You Are: Riot Act
1/2 Full: Riot Act
2,000 Mile Blues: Ten reissue
4/20/02: Lost Dogs
7up: stone demo (pushin’ forward back)

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so stone wrote 'breath' while he was high, huh?


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Shit man, that's impressive.

Good job stip!


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